2018-04-07 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:12:10 <chris> @tell dmeey if you're wishing to track prices of inventory - cost price sale price/profit, I'd say gnucash is not exactly geared for this. the internal data structures *do* allow tracking items quantities+prices and you can calculate 'unit price' by simple division, most reports do not quite understand this type of price variability... they assume price variability comes from the market rather than from your sale skills
00:12:10 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
00:12:54 <chris> @tell dmeey however you can still technically track inventory prices/numbers but will need to create your own reports
00:12:54 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
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03:29:45 <Mechtilde> I want to do the SEPA Transaction
03:44:11 <Mechtilde> I lost the Templates
03:44:25 <Mechtilde> Is it possible to restore them
03:44:26 <Mechtilde> ?
03:44:40 <Mechtilde> I use version 2.7.8
03:44:44 <Mechtilde> under Debian
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04:08:16 <gour> morning
04:10:27 <gour> i've the following line in my ~/.gnucash/config.user: (load (gnc-build-dotgnucash-path "ytd-budget.scm")), but it does not appear and despite of launching gnucash with: --debug --log gnc.scm=debug there is nothing in the terminal. any hint how to troubleshoot it?
04:12:49 <gour> some time ago i moved (after years of usage) from GC to (h)ledger to due to missing feature of envelope (cumulative) budgeting and forecasting and the above report could bring me back...since i found that entering data, scheduled txns, reconcillation...is quicket/better in GC than in other #plaintextaccounting apps, but I simply need proper envelope budgeting and forecasting
04:13:34 <gour> i took report from here: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-March/075748.html
04:26:19 <arahael> The cmake build can't find webkitgtk-3.0, what's the simplest way for me to tell cmake where it is?
04:26:35 <arahael> Eg, suppose I've downloaded the latest webkitgtk2 for my platform.
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04:36:00 <arahael> (My platform being macos)
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04:54:42 <hersh> I want to learn about the fundamental accounting concepts to be able to use gnucash. It should be something that I could finish reading in 30 minutes. What is the best resource?
04:57:33 <Mechtilde> Tutorial and Concepts
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13:10:12 <marco82> hi all, I have the same problem as gour - in 2.6.19 I had a custom report and in 3.0 I cannot get it to load / display in the report menu anymore. It is basically a slightly adapted version of the taxinvoice.scm report. I do not know if the "config.user" is not read anymore or if the load command is working differently with 3.0. No error in the trace file visible either. I am on Windows and used the command "gnucash.exe --debug --log gn
13:10:12 <marco82> c.scm=debug" to generate the trace file. Can anyone please give me a hint on how to troubleshoot this issue? Thanks
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15:54:03 <Guest77> Hi there, i was trying automatic stock price updates folllowing https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/invest-stockprice1.html however gnc-fq-update does not exist on my system -anybody here who can help?
15:54:38 <Guest77> (Using Ubuntu with Gnucash 2,6)
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16:07:45 <fell> Guest77: try to intall (a permutation of) perl-lib-finance-quote
16:10:44 <fell> AFAIK ubuntu made it a dependency of their GnuCash package.
16:13:09 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes shows several ways to install or update it.
16:22:49 <Guest77> seems that it should be libfinance-quote-perl but is missing the update thing
16:23:28 <Guest77> i've found another post linking to the source on github which i used from 2.4 now it can download stocks from commandline e..g yahoo_json with GOOG
16:23:54 <Guest77> however i still have an issue with unionfunds using the ISIN - you don't happen to be german?
16:24:28 <fell> Doch
16:25:57 <Guest77> IRC language is german only? - have you ever tried retrieving fund values from unioninvestment?
16:26:49 <Guest77> e.g. https://www.union-investment.de/handle?action=viewFundPortrait&isin=DE0009750497&portrait=5
16:27:06 <Guest77> i'd assume "gnc-fq-dump unionfunds DE0009750497" but don't get anything useful back
16:28:33 <fell> Ja, Ich glaub, da liegt noch ein patch in rt.cpan, den Erik vergessen hat einzubauen.
16:28:54 <Guest77> mh für UnionInvestment oder allgemein
16:29:07 <fell> für die Uniion
16:29:13 <Guest77> die Beispiele die in der man drin stehen wie "gnc-fq-dump yahoo BAESY.PK" gehne bei mir auch nicht
16:29:24 <Guest77> Kann das sein das das ganze ein bisschen veraltet ist
16:29:59 <Guest77> Lustigerweise haben übrigens die Leute von UnionInvestment sogar auf das Projekt verwiesen und meinten nur sie ändern immer mal ihre Website aber es gibt Leute die es tortzdem versuchen :)
16:30:49 <Guest77> also mit bsp meine ich die die unter "man gnc-fq-dump" stehen
16:30:57 <fell> Yahoo hat die csv-Schnittstelle deaktiviert, nimm eine andere yahoo-schnittstelle oder wechsel auf alphavantage.
16:31:57 <Guest77> yahoo JSON geht ja, dachte nur ich probiere mal die bsp die dabei stehen :) das mit der Yahoo schnittstelle hab ich auch iwann mal gehört, gut also dann ists richtig konfiguriert jedoch aktuell nicht Funktionsfähig für UnionInvest?
16:32:17 <Guest77> Wie komme ich sinnvoll an den Patch wenn er da ist, denke bis der in Ubuntu ist wirds ja wohl noch lange dauern oder?\
16:32:22 <fell> Mach mal eine Bug auf, gnc-fq-* man pages outdated, damit ich das nicht vergesse, mir mal anzusehen.
16:32:40 <Guest77> github?
16:32:46 <Guest77> oder launchpad
16:32:56 <fell> bigzilla.gnome.org
16:33:02 <fell> bugzilla.gnome.org
16:33:16 <Guest77> ah und super das du dich gleich drum kümmern willst :) Mal gucken ob mein account da überhaupt noch geht, ewig nicht genutzt
16:33:17 <fell> für die man pages
16:33:29 <Guest77> gibts da auch schon einen zu den unionInvest sachen?
16:34:14 <fell> https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Status=Active&Name=Finance-Quote
16:34:59 <fell> da könnte was sein oder in github financeqoite
16:38:12 <fell> https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/issues/48
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16:40:47 <fell> Der Patch, den du brauchst: https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/commit/dcbef5c1efb28fbcd02377850adbd0d9bc1209be
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16:40:51 <Guest77> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795058
16:41:07 <Guest77> fell gehe davon aus du hast es eh als Mail bekommen ?
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16:41:50 <Guest77> muss man für die URL änderung das ganze Paket neu kompilieren oder kann ich die Gefahrlos einfach so ändern?
16:41:56 <fell> Danke
16:42:35 <fell> Ändern & speichern sollte bei perl reichen
16:43:57 <Guest77> probiere ich mal, hab die neue URL mal online auf gemacht ... scheint die WKN und nicht die ISIN als Referenz zu nutzen
16:45:26 <fell> Ja, ich glaub, die meisten deutschen Gesellschaften benutzen noch die WKN.
16:46:30 <fell> Im wiki habe ich es wohl geschrieben, aber in Help nicht dran gedacht. -> Bugzilla
16:48:18 <marco82> soll ich für das Problem mit dem custom report, der nicht geladen wird, auch ein bug in bugzilla eröffnen?
16:48:52 <fell> Am 12.11.17 war die letze FQ-Release und am 14. hat Erik den patch cimmited. :-(
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16:49:17 <fell> Moment, eins nach dem anderen
16:50:10 <fell> Kannst du vielleicht an Gnucash-de schreiben, wie das Union-Problem zu lösen ist?
16:50:44 <fell> Ich nehme mal an, ad gibt es noch mehrInteressenten.
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16:55:42 <Guest77> fell bin gleich offline ... denke das hat wenig Sinn wenn ich da jetzt noch in dem anderen schreibe
16:56:59 <Guest77> + den room scheint es nicht zu geben
16:57:12 <Guest77> muss ich irgendwas neu starten nachdem ich die pm datei geändert habe ?
16:57:28 <fell> mailto:gnucash-de
16:58:41 <fell> marco82. hast du mal in bugzilla geschaut, ob das schon jemand beschrieben hat?
17:00:33 <Guest77> fell habs an die list geschickt
17:00:50 <fell> und helf mir nochmal auf die Sprünge, wo wir darüber gesprochen haben
17:01:03 <fell> Danke, Benedikt!
17:01:22 <Guest77> Haha du bist also mod :) - wenn dann aber mit C
17:01:44 <Guest77> und ja ich hab mein IRC password irgendwie verlegt :)
17:02:09 <fell> Sorry
17:02:28 <Guest77> Ach was - bin positiv überrascht vom IRC Support zu gnucash
17:02:35 <Guest77> sollte öfter mal hier vorbei schauen
17:03:00 <Guest77> Wenns nicht mit C++ und Perl geschrieben wäre würde ich mir manches ja auch evtl. mal genauer angucken ;)
17:03:27 <fell> Am Wochenende kann es aber auch mal länger dauern ;-)
17:04:28 <Guest77> Naja ich hab ehrlich gesagt keine Antwort erwartet ...
17:04:54 <Guest77> Erst recht keine qualitiativ so hochwertige :) Kennst dich anscheinetn aus
17:06:03 <fell> Hast ja auch gerade meine Steckenpferde erwischt.
17:09:48 <fell> For the logs: primary we solved an issue (changed URL of FQ module Union), where the patch was applied 2 day after the last release.
17:15:37 <marco82> fell: bin gerade am schauen in bugzilla, sehe aber nichts passendes, ist auch erst mit version 3.0 aufgetreten
17:18:21 <fell> marco82: Haben wir darüber schon mal wo(?) geschrieben?
17:19:12 <fell> Nach einer Release kommen ja viele Berichte in der einen oder anderen Form rein.
17:21:17 <marco82> fell: ich hatte das heute hier im IRC geschrieben: hi all, I have the same problem as gour - in 2.6.19 I had a custom report and in 3.0 I cannot get it to load / display in the report menu anymore. It is basically a slightly adapted version of the taxinvoice.scm report. I do not know if the "config.user" is not read anymore or if the load command is working differently with 3.0. No error in the trace file visible either. I am on Windows
17:21:17 <marco82> and used the command "gnucash.exe --debug --log gnc.scm=debug" to generate the trace file. Can anyone please give me a hint on how to troubleshoot this issue? Thanks
17:22:00 <fell> Ach, da oben
17:22:28 <marco82> jep - noch total informell ;)
17:23:14 <fell> Ich glaub, da hat sich was mit den Pfaden geändert.
17:24:03 <marco82> in Windows, ja: alt = C:\Users\marco\.gnucash --- neu mit Version 3.0 = C:\Users\marco\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash
17:24:26 <marco82> ich habe meinen custom report an den neuen Ort gelegt und die user.config dazu
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17:33:43 <fell> und wecher Pfad steht in der config.user?
17:44:57 <fell> At least, what I see, https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Load_the_report_from_a_user_account needs an update to solve gour and marco82's issue.
17:48:12 <marco82> config.user = (load (gnc-build-dotgnucash-path "my-report.scm"))
17:56:30 <fell> marco82, can you replace "load " by "display" and start gnucash from the command line?
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18:15:42 <marco82> nope - nothing happens, no error or warning in the trace file neither
18:19:35 <fell> OK, then file a bug report and mention the wiki needs updates, too. At several places like the link above.
18:21:38 <marco82> thanks, will do so tomorrow
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21:40:46 <Luigi> In moving from a QIC file to GnuCash, an income type account got made into a cash type account. Tried deleting, but the income account is not a type I can move the contents to. Any other possibilities?
21:42:20 <warlord> THere is no "Income" type account in QIF
21:42:39 <warlord> QIF only handles Asset/Liability/Equity and similar subtypes
21:42:53 <warlord> Income and Expense are "Categories"
21:54:09 <Luigi> Yes that is the problem. I am trying to get out of Quicken as fast as I can. So now I have a category that got turned into the wrong type of GnuCash account. Did I miss a way of specifying the "type" of an account when doing the import?
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22:10:43 <fell> Luigi: Move it first to the top level, thn you can choose almost every type.
22:11:59 <fell> The types of subaccounts are restricted by the type of their "mother account"
22:15:22 <Luigi> It was already a top account of type "Cash" Doing delete account it still only allows changing to another cash account. "Income" just does not show up in the list. Im reading the import help. I might have to do an import into a new file and be more careful about it.
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