2018-04-01 GnuCash IRC logs

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11:31:12 <chris> .
11:31:12 <gncbot> chris: Sent 13 hours and 16 minutes ago: <lmat> could it be that your accounting ... from a child account? Yes, I do believe that is the case! There is a child account carrying $5000 for a rainy day! \o/
11:31:47 <chris> @tell sounds like a good idea which doesn't translate very well in practice lol
11:31:47 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
11:32:01 <chris> @tell lmat sounds like a good idea which doesn't translate very well in practice lol
11:32:01 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
11:32:01 <chris> oops
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12:32:36 <gncbot> sounds: Sent 1 hour ago: <chris> like a good idea which doesn't translate very well in practice lol
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12:44:30 <fell> jralls: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792397 is for your release notes.
12:46:54 <jralls> fell: Have you tested that it's still true with GC 2.7.8? gjanssens did a major overhaul of the user data in January.
12:47:45 <jralls> And BTW if it's true it's HBCI only, OFX direct works correctly.
12:48:06 <jralls> s/HBCI/FinTS/ I suppose.
12:48:43 <jralls> Should we do that change globally in GC and the docs?
12:48:57 <fell> No, info@kobaltwit.be touched it on 2018-03-29 20:45:57 UTC
12:49:43 <fell> Not sure, if he tested it
12:50:07 <jralls> I suspect that was just to clarify the remarks. He doesn't use online banking at all so he can't test it.
12:51:16 <fell> So I will spent the next time on my laptop and set up everything.
12:52:17 <jralls> How long do you think it will take?
12:53:35 <fell> I don't know. I will test our iwiki instructions.
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20:05:34 <iateadonut> do i have to ask to ask? or do i just ask in this channel?
20:05:35 <iateadonut> (i'm asking to ask to ask; I didn't do anything else for april fools)
20:06:15 <iateadonut> i'm wondering how i can apply a payment that has already been imported from my checking account to an invoice?
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20:28:02 <iateadonut> i've already imported my bank statement into current assets->checking account, and those payments were tied to income->consulting; but i'd like to show which of those checking account credits are tied to which invoices
20:32:54 <iateadonut> in my income account there is, for example, a payment of $3k; the total charge is tied to 'current assets:checking account' and the total income column reads 'income:consulting'
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20:33:33 <jralls> iateadonut: I think I'm the only one actually here ATM and I don't use the business features, so I don't actually know the answer... but ISTR others saying that you have to let the invoice/bill create the transaction. The easiest thing to do in that case would be to do that and delete the one you imported from the bank.
20:34:53 <jralls> OTOH, the invoice transaction will be between income and A/R, so you actually want to keep the bank transaction, just change the income split to A/R.
20:39:31 <iateadonut> i'll try the OTOH thing and see.
20:40:10 <iateadonut> jralls, thanks.
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21:09:13 <iateadonut> that'd be a serious PITA if i had to add all payments by hand... here, https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/acct-types.html, it says:
21:09:13 <iateadonut> Warning The Accounts Payable and Accounts Receivable types are used internally by GnuCash’s business features. Transactions involving these accounts should not be added, changed or deleted in any way other than by using post/unpost bill/invoice/voucher or process payment
21:09:28 <iateadonut> so changing the income split to A/R - it looks like that's against the rules?
21:12:17 <jralls> Yeah, it is. You're supposed to do it by marking the invoice paid.
21:18:39 <jralls> And if you don't the payment transaction and the invoice won't have the pointers to each other. So you're back to deleting the imported transaction.
21:19:15 <jralls> Do you process lots of payments a month? GnuCash isn't really designed for high-volume work.
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21:47:14 <iateadonut> no, but my current system of invoicing is an indecipherable mess of spreadsheets.
21:48:00 <iateadonut> and it just seems really odd that you can't do that (associate a payment from an imported bank statement to an invoice) - i'm sure that comes up a lot.
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21:50:11 <iateadonut> (so i want to move my invoicing to gnucash, which i use for taxes)
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22:14:00 <ZEROGOD> , ,
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22:14:10 <ZEROGOD> \" ,==='------'===, \" happy april floods day!
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