2018-03-19 GnuCash IRC logs

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08:55:27 <lmat> jralls: Glad you found the problem! That sounds like it may be easy enough to correct.
08:56:15 <lmat> And I see that a release notice went out for 2.7.7.
08:57:31 <lmat> For stable releases within the v3.x path, do we have 8 chances to patch, or 9? (3.1 is the first stable patch to 3.0... 3.8 is the eighth stable patch. Is 3.9 the ninth stable patch? Is it possible to make a tenth stable patch?)
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12:59:20 <jralls> lmat: Depending on bugs we may do monthly patches through July, but we'll settle into quarterly as we've done with 2.6. The target for 4.0 is no later than December 2020, meaning we'll probably have around 14 releases. The pre-4.0 releases will start with 3.900 so there's plenty of room for numbers.
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14:30:18 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Hi. I am new to GnuCash. Do people chat much here?
14:31:27 <jralls> Depends on what you mean by chat. You can read the logs to get a sample.
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14:39:05 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Thanks
14:39:22 <warlord> RandomGuyOnIrc: depends on time of day, day of week.
14:39:22 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 19 hours and 50 minutes ago: <jralls> Changing my permissions on gnucash-announce doesn't seem to have had any effect. The 2.7.7 announcement is held on both gnucash-announce and gnucash-devel because Message has implicit destination .
14:42:21 <warlord> jralls: ahh, yeah, it probably does not like implicit destinations at all.
14:44:11 <jralls> OK. So next weekend I'll try sending to announce, ccing users and devel, and setting reply-to to users and we'll see how that works.
14:45:11 <jralls> Though anyone who does "reply all" will reply to all three. That might get annoying.
14:45:20 <warlord> That should work -- none of the lists set a Reply-To
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16:52:08 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I just set up an "account" which I would describe as a group of accounts. When I try to save, my only option is xml, but I want to save as mysql. How do I do that?
16:53:31 <RandomGuyOnIrc> maybe this is the answer http://www.howtodoityourself.org/set-mysql-gnucash-backend.html
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17:07:18 <warlord> RandomGuyOnIrc: what OS/Distro are you using?
17:09:36 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Ubuntu
17:10:02 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I got to the point where I can do file save as, choose mysql
17:10:09 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I set up the database
17:10:25 <RandomGuyOnIrc> But when I try to save, I get this error: The server at URL mysql://Acumen@localhost/gnucash experienced an error or encountered bad or corrupt data.
17:10:42 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I created user Acumen
17:10:47 <RandomGuyOnIrc> set his password
17:11:04 <RandomGuyOnIrc> and used that same password in the file save dialogue
17:12:28 <jralls> RandomGuyOnIrc: You need to grant Acumen create database and create table.
17:13:09 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Ohhh ok thanks
17:13:40 <jralls> RandomGuyOnIrc: The rule for using a server backend is that you must either be an expert DBA on that server or employ someone who is. We can't remotely begin to teach DBA skills.
17:14:19 <jralls> Or teach them remotely, for that matter.
17:25:02 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I have used mysql for a long time
17:25:15 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I just forgot to do that
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17:27:15 <jralls> OK, I just had to give you the standard disclaimer. ;-)
17:28:04 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I still get the same error
17:28:42 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Do I need to create database Gnucash first?
17:29:05 <RandomGuyOnIrc> ooops typo, mybad
17:32:24 <jralls> Ot
17:32:38 <jralls> It's easier if you let GnuCash create the DB.
17:33:33 <jralls> There are some defaults buried in the code that GnuCash needs for the DB to work correctly.
17:40:46 <RandomGuyOnIrc> OK
17:42:00 <RandomGuyOnIrc> So I created a user Acumen, granted him all privileges, logged in as that user, created a database, dropped that same database, and quit
17:42:21 <RandomGuyOnIrc> when I try the file save as from Gnucash, I get the same error
17:42:45 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Do I need to exit gnucash? Does it somehow remember?
17:45:03 <jralls> It shouldn't remember anything until you've successfully created a db. Check your MySQL logs for clues. You can also quit GnuCash and restart it from the command line with --log gnc.backend.dbi=debug and it will put all sorts of gory details into the trace file.
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17:47:33 <RandomGuyOnIrc> slightly different error
17:47:34 <RandomGuyOnIrc> The server at URL mysql://Acumen@localhost/gnucash experienced an error or encountered bad or corrupt data.
17:47:41 <RandomGuyOnIrc> it does create the database
17:47:46 <RandomGuyOnIrc> will check logs
17:47:48 <RandomGuyOnIrc> thanks
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17:48:01 <RandomGuyOnIrc> time to go cook dinner, will fix this later
17:48:12 <RandomGuyOnIrc> thanks again, you guys are great
17:48:42 <jralls> You're welcome.
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22:01:49 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I am not having any luck saving a database to mysql, I keep getting the error: The server at URL mysql://Acumen@localhost/gnucash experienced an error or encountered bad or corrupt data.
22:02:17 <RandomGuyOnIrc> after I create it, I can see the database from the mysql commandline
22:02:47 <RandomGuyOnIrc> there is nothing in the /var/log/mysql/error.log
22:03:15 <RandomGuyOnIrc> I tried running with debugging, "gnucash --debug -extra"
22:03:29 <RandomGuyOnIrc> but there is nothing useful
22:04:08 <RandomGuyOnIrc> Any suggestions?
22:05:19 <RandomGuyOnIrc> oh nevermind
22:05:22 <RandomGuyOnIrc> time for bed
22:05:27 <RandomGuyOnIrc> will be back tomorrow
22:05:29 <RandomGuyOnIrc> good night
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23:27:56 <warlord> @tell RandomGuyOnIrc If you can't wait around for more than 4 minutes there's no chance you'll get an answer. Having said that -- try using XML if you can't use MySQL. We are not DB Admins here. Sounds like a permission problem with your user/database. Or you're using a "too new" mariadb which isn't properly supported by your version of gnucash+DBI.
23:27:56 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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