2018-02-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:44:36 <warlord> gjanssens: there you go. Not sure what happened -- or when..
09:44:58 <gjanssens> Tx warlord
09:45:09 <warlord> Do you know when gncbot disappeared?
09:45:39 <warlord> I don't see anything in the logs that would indicate an obvious problem -- the weekly hangup I was having before did not happen last night.
09:53:33 <chris_afk> jralls my earlier issue with travis-ci had to do with the locale; my report default currency is obviously AUD, (setlocale LC_ALL "C") has fixed it. nearly completed most tests. only sorting options remaining.
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10:10:48 <gjanssens> warlord: I saw gncbot disappear yesterday evening around 20:35 CET
10:11:23 <gjanssens> I went offline about 2 hours later and by that time it hadn't resurfaced yet
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10:36:41 <warlord> gjanssens_afk: So that was 14:35 CET. Hmm..
10:36:46 <warlord> Er, 14:35 EST
10:37:16 <warlord> Looks to be around the same time that I was disconnected.
10:37:48 <warlord> This just goes back to some bug that supybot is not properly retrying to reconnect. I need to update code and at the same time upgrade supybot to limnoria, which is actively maintained.
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11:30:33 <jralls> chris_afk: Is that (setlocale LC_ALL "C") in the setup for a test?
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11:50:52 <jralls> gjanssens: On the subject of the new home for config files: Does the Linux/BSD code *move* or *copy* the files? Your note says it moves them, but that will break 2.6.x.
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11:52:56 <jralls> gjanssens: Your note also says that Gnucash will look for gtk-3.0.css in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnucash but Gtk is hard-coded to look in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gtk-3.0 for theme files.
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12:00:03 <jralls> gjanssens_afk: XDG_DATA_DIRS and XDG_CONFIG_HOME are now set in etc/gnucash/environment on MacOS but in 2.6 that was done by setting GNC_DOT_DIR in the bundle's launcher script. That means that users getting GnuCash via MacPorts or Homebrew would have their files in the default ~/.gnucash. Does the config-moving code look for ~/.gnucash regardless or is it conditional on build platform?
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14:33:53 <jvapr27> hi all
14:33:55 <jvapr27> back again..
14:33:58 <jvapr27> qq..
14:34:52 <jvapr27> how do you all handle the situation when your bank sends a bill pay to your CC. The bank shows the payment leave on January 31st but the CC shows the payment made on February 5th.
14:35:04 <jvapr27> Now, how do you tell gnucash that it is the same transaction..?
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14:38:35 <Simon> I pick one of the dates
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15:01:23 <jralls> jvapr27: You're keeping *your* books, not the bank's or the CC company's, so you use the date on which you want to recognize that the money is no longer available to you.
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16:37:01 <gjanssens_afk> jralls: the migration code copies .gnucash to .local/share/gnucash and then moves a number of files from .local/share/gnucash to .config/gnucash
16:37:16 <gjanssens_afk> The old .gnucash directory remains unaltered.
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16:37:32 <gjanssens> That may indeed not be very clear from my messages.
16:38:09 <gjanssens> Secondly, the gtk-3.0.css file is gnucash specific. Gnucash will explicitly load it if found
16:38:30 <gjanssens> That's regardless of where gtk-3.0 by default will search for its theme file
16:38:45 <jralls> So which takes precedence?
16:39:02 <jralls> I guess that means which one is loaded last?
16:39:17 <gjanssens> That I don't know. We should test that.
16:40:12 <gjanssens> It's really a gtk3 reinterpretation of the .gtkrc-2.0/.gtkrc-2.0.gnucash duo we also had previously
16:42:03 <gjanssens> And regarding your last question: the migration code will look for .gnucash regardless. But it will only attempt a migration if GNC_DATA_HOME doesn't exist yet.
16:42:34 <gjanssens> So for OS X/Quarz, it will not do anything, because Application Support/Gnucash has always existed.
16:43:00 <gjanssens> For Homebrew and MacPorts users it will also start the migration if .local/share/Gnucash does not exist yet.
16:44:15 <gjanssens> jralls: when do you leave exactly ?
16:44:51 <jralls> Tomorrow morning, flight's at 1030, but I don't expect to be here after about 5 this afternoon.
16:47:08 <gjanssens> Ok
16:47:28 <gjanssens> I'm off to bed now. Should you have more questions, you can tell gncbot or send a mail.
16:47:37 <jralls> I'll send mail.
16:47:38 <gjanssens> Have a good trip!
16:47:46 <jralls> Thanks, and goodnight!
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18:20:40 <arahael> Is it possible to "hide" accounts?
18:21:11 <arahael> Eg, I've just changed my super account to a new account, and I'd like to "hide" the old one (as it was a cash account, but it turns out that a Fund account is much better)
18:24:10 <jralls> Yes, there are three different adjustments. You can filter out 0-balance accounts from the Accounts page and reports, you can set an account to Hidden in the Edit Account dialog to remove it from the Accounts page and you can set it to Placeholder in that dialog to remove it from the account selection list and prevent new transactions from being added to it.
18:34:43 <arahael> 0-account balances sounds ideal. I think I'll look at that after I've been using gnucash for more than a few months.
18:34:51 <arahael> Thanks. :)
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18:41:44 * arahael is annoyed by a niggling off-by-one-cent error in the super account.
18:42:33 <arahael> An artifact of using fund units instead of currency?
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18:56:18 <chris> jralls yes I've added (setlocale LC_ALL "C") in the scheme file, similar to what gjanssens did in test-standard-net-linechart.scm
18:57:16 <jralls> chris: In a test file, right? You can't do that in a report file.
18:57:36 <chris> of course
18:57:40 <jralls> OK.
19:00:03 <chris> if you have any running commentary on https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/blob/TR-unittest/gnucash/report/standard-reports/test/test-transaction.scm I'm all ears :)
19:00:10 <chris> some observations so far:
19:01:13 <chris> (1) since I'm not updating pricedb while creating foreign txns, the report will show $0.00, and it doesn't seem pure to test the converted amounts here
19:02:22 <chris> (2) USD shows $0.00 but GBP shows ??0.00 which is fine because I can clean up and convert to number and test the amounts in cells nonetheless
19:02:37 <chris> (3) so far the test suite takes only 2.2s to run
19:03:59 <chris> arahael: I think so yes
19:05:06 <jralls> chris: You'll eventually want "my-runner" to have a less textbooky name and to live in common/test-core, I think.
19:05:37 <chris> yes and there must be a separate test-utility file for srfi-64 based tests
19:06:35 <jralls> logger and counter too, perhaps. options-sxml and get-row-col seem more report-specific and so might go in report-system/test-extras.scm.
19:21:26 <jralls> I haven't yet studied SRFI64 so I can't really comment in detail.
19:27:21 <chris> as you can see sxpath makes this test possible
19:27:30 <chris> or sane
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21:27:13 <mib_av8soq> Hi everyone. What would make a trial balance (and balance sheet) not balance? I have accounts in two different currencies which I suspect is the issue. Gnucash is supposed to correctly adjust with the rates but is calculation for gain/loss is wrong -- ie the TB and BS is not balancing. Every transaction does balance so it is not a one sided entry.
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