2018-02-14 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:49:24 <gnunewb> hi guys
01:49:30 <gnunewb> i have a question
01:50:21 <gnunewb> how do you do the calculator loan repayment that is being mentioned here on this tutorial https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/loans_personalLoanToSomeOne.html
01:59:01 <fell> It is in Tools
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02:32:31 <gnunewb> can you tell me the exact location
02:32:39 <gnunewb> wait
02:32:40 <gnunewb> i see it
02:47:32 <gnunewb> where do i record a transaction for the money that i already have
02:47:39 <gnunewb> lets say im starting out
02:48:07 <gnunewb> what transaction do i need to do to put on my starting money
02:54:28 <fell> 1. While you start an new file, you can enter it.
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02:57:09 <fell> 2. You ca manually create transactions e.g. Opening balance: Cash 1000$; Equity:Opening balance:1000$
03:01:54 <fell> Didn't you read https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/txns-puttoget1.html#txns-puttoget-open2, gnunewb? ;-)
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03:06:48 <gjanssens> .
03:07:49 <fell> Hii gjanssens
03:08:20 <fell> PR #268 got somehow messed up.
03:10:16 <fell> Do you have some better idea than Mechtilde should save de.po ousite her repo, create a new branch and copy it in and commit it again?
03:44:58 <gjanssens> fell: how is it messed up ?
03:46:28 <fell> I assume a git pull while in that branch
03:46:52 <gjanssens> I meant why do you think it's messed up ?
03:47:02 <gjanssens> What is wrong with it ?
03:47:26 <fell> all commits from unstabe became merged
03:47:56 <fell> 62 files changed
03:49:26 <gjanssens> Oh, that. I think that's more of a github artifact. If you pull the PR, it will correctly show only Mechtilde's commits in a separate branch
03:50:46 <gjanssens> At least it does here
03:51:35 <fell> I will try (switching from docs ...)
03:53:28 <gjanssens> Got to leave for some errands...
03:53:53 <fell> NP. I will leave a message
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04:22:40 <chris> @tell jralls pardon my french leave:)
04:22:40 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
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05:15:26 <fell> chris: transaction.scm:114 "No account were found ..." should be singular or plural?
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07:11:04 <warlord> fell: IMHO it should either be "no account was found" or "no accounts were found"
07:12:36 <fell> That's what my teachers told me. ;-) But how will we translate this mixture?
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07:15:02 <fell> gjanssens: in my locale repo it is usable. It looks like a rebased branch.
07:23:41 <gjanssens> fell: yes that's what I think as well
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10:02:09 <gjanssens> warlord: as I have no experience with qif files, can you tell me whether this patch is correct ?
10:02:12 <gjanssens> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/274/files#diff-0
10:02:17 <gjanssens> If so I'll commit it
10:03:37 <warlord> gjanssens: looking.
10:06:30 <warlord> You definitely do not need the addition on line 405. It's absolutely extraneous.
10:07:32 <warlord> As for the additions on lines 395/396 -- I THOUGHT that the !Account...TInvst was sufficient to be equivalent to !Type:Invst but also assigning the actual account (Assets:Investments:Mutual Fund).
10:07:50 <warlord> You could just try to run the import on this file with/without the additions and see what happens?
10:08:23 <gjanssens> Good point
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10:18:32 <gjanssens> warlord: interestingly the original file errors out with "Credit limit: Unrecognized or inconsistent format."
10:18:40 <gjanssens> The patch makes it an importable file
10:20:21 <gjanssens> And while testing I found the qif importer is very unforgiving for going back and choosing another file to load. It will report an internal error in the qif parser when you attempt to :(
10:21:46 <gjanssens> Anyway, I think I'll just accept the patch as it does fix the file.
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10:31:30 <fell> gjanssens: IIRC at some point ABN-AMRO e.g. created their own extension of a standard exchange format. Make sure, we will not rely on such "extension".
10:33:34 <gjanssens> fell: I am not doing any such thing. The PR makes adjustments to an example qif file included in gnucash
10:33:58 <gjanssens> That file without the PR won't import with the current qif importer, but it does after applying the PR
10:34:18 <gjanssens> So if this is because of an ABN-AMRO extension, it was already in our current importer.
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10:34:56 <fell> OK
10:34:57 <gjanssens> Also note it's not my PR. I don't know anything about QIF but would just like to go through the PR backlog
10:35:53 <fell> I am still on Translation27 de #268.
10:36:20 <gjanssens> Didn't you merge it ?
10:36:20 <fell> Try to find all missing #, c-format lines
10:36:42 <gjanssens> Oh
10:37:16 <fell> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/5cf58758a24858a60e015bd3790c4326e4ad1e68
10:38:22 <fell> msgfmt seems not to complain
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11:03:55 <chris> fell: "No account were found" yes my English has a typo. however if https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/273/commits/a29f4d41c2013737881d72c43f8826be980e6f62 is merged, then this string with typo will not be needed anymore. I'll be more economical with strings with next work.
11:04:40 <fell> Thanks in the name of our translators, chris!
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11:52:02 <luc14n0> Can someone tell me how is gnucash interacting with dconf?
11:53:37 <warlord> luc14n0: gjanssens should be best able to answer that.
11:53:48 <fell> Gnucash uses dconf to store it's global settings. gjanssens knows the detail.
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11:54:46 <gjanssens> luc14n0: gnucash is using dconf indirectly via gio's gsettings interface
11:54:48 <gjanssens> https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GSettings.html
11:55:00 <gjanssens> What is the problem ?
11:57:42 <luc14n0> gjanssens: no problems so far, I just wanted to know the method as I didn't see any links to libdconf.
11:57:58 <gjanssens> Ok.
11:58:50 <gjanssens> Gsettings works with the concept of backends to store preferences
11:59:02 <gjanssens> On linux and similar systems the default backend is dconf
11:59:23 <gjanssens> But others exist, like on Windows the Windows registry is used and on OS X it uses the defaults system
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12:04:53 <luc14n0> I will have a closer look at the link. Thanks!
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12:17:02 <gjanssens> You're welcome
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