2018-02-08 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:54:14 <ase> chris: well, each subaccount has it's own currency, so i hope changing the currency of the root account will have minimal side effects if any at all :-) just trying to be optimistic ;-) and i have a hope to see that possibility at the next release of gnucash! may be this is too optimistic though :-D
00:56:00 <ase> so here is a future request to developers: give us a possibility of changing the currency of the root account in the gnucash file, please ;-)
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07:09:15 <warlord> @op
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12:19:43 <Thystra> Hello, I'm having an issue with GnuCash. A customer has a overpayment/credit balance. How do I apply it to an invoice so that it comes out of the AR report at the bottome of the customer report? The total due / sums are correct, but the customer has a 91+ day balance of (0.03).
12:19:54 <Thystra> Version 2.6.19
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12:36:46 <gjanssens> .
12:41:45 <gjanssens> Bugzilla is down :(
12:41:57 <gjanssens> Nothing we can do about it of course...
12:45:32 <gjanssens> ase_: because gncbot was out for a while I have missed your conversation about changing the currency of the root account.
12:45:41 <gjanssens> So I don't know why you would want to do this.
12:45:52 <gjanssens> I do know it won't make the next release.
12:46:45 <gjanssens> We're in the process of stabilzing it and it's unclear what side effect (wanted and unwanted) changing the root account's currency would have.
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15:07:47 <jralls> .
15:09:34 <jralls> gjanssens: The user who wants to change the currency of the root account has moved to a different country with a different currency and wants to convert to using his new home's currency without creating a new book.
15:13:27 <warlord> seems like a reasonable request.
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16:11:32 <gjanssens> ok, that's reasonable indeed
16:12:05 <gjanssens> Someone can send in a patch for after 3.0. I fear it will reveal a few ugly corners though
16:12:44 <gjanssens> I remember someone - I think it was Alex - discovering gnucash at some point has been creating books with multiple root accounts
16:13:30 <gjanssens> So far this doesn't seem to have negative side effects, but we'll probably want to clean this up if we want to allow modifications of some root account properties
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16:14:36 <gjanssens> For the record, I do support the idea of changing the books primary currency (root account currency), I'm just thinking out loud of what it would involve...
16:15:21 <gjanssens> jralls: does gnucash on OS X also print the early startup messages to the terminal if started from one ?
16:15:34 <jralls> Yes.
16:15:58 <gjanssens> Oh good. Then my config.user file be helpful for David
16:16:27 <jralls> It should.
16:16:57 <gjanssens> Fyi, I'm following a training course this week. I'm exhausted at night, so I there's have much energy for gnucash left
16:17:10 <gjanssens> Not for anything that requires me to think at least
16:17:39 <gjanssens> Oh what a weird sentence...
16:17:54 <gjanssens> "... so there's not much energy left for gnucash"
16:19:47 <gjanssens> But "I'll be back" as Swarznegger used to say in Terminator :)
16:19:57 <gjanssens> Hopefully for something more constructive though
16:21:12 <jralls> gjanssens: What's the course about?
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16:22:10 <gjanssens> The competition :(
16:22:24 <gjanssens> I have to learn how odoo's framework is working
16:22:49 <gjanssens> Well, not strictly competition, of course
16:23:00 <gjanssens> gnucash targets a totally different audience
16:23:31 <gjanssens> I'll admit I have more respect for the odoo developers now
16:23:45 <gjanssens> And I'm getting plenty of ideas to improve on gnucash as well by the way
16:23:53 <gjanssens> Now only to find some time to implement them...
16:24:44 <gjanssens> One of the things I like about their concept is they have managed to encapsulate financial rules into a data layer
16:25:12 <gjanssens> So they can just define tax rules for different countries by writing different xml files
16:25:15 <gjanssens> No coding required
16:25:47 <gjanssens> Still pretty complex though (at least with what I have learned so far)
16:27:16 <gjanssens> But I'm mulling over a simplified variant for gnucash, building it bit by bit to make it more internationally useful
16:27:36 <jralls> That sounds promising indeed.
16:28:23 <gjanssens> What are your next steps for gnucash ?
16:29:51 <jralls> Making the engine classes C++ with constructors. Right now the backends create empty objects and then fill them with the setter functions, which of course fires the QofInstance commit logic.
16:30:56 <gjanssens> Ok, though that's 4.0 roadmap I presume, just like my wild ideas on business logic
16:31:02 <jralls> And that wants to write to SQL when that's the backend. There's a hack that marks the object an "infant" if it's being constructed that's supposed to stop the writes, but there are corner cases that miss it.
16:31:16 <jralls> Right, I thought that that's what you were asking about.
16:31:32 <gjanssens> I wasn't too clear on that indeed
16:31:41 <chris> fwiw all ase wanted was to change the currency of the clickable "Grand Total" summary bar in the main Accounts tree
16:31:54 <jralls> For 3.0 I want to get the bugs in BZ fixed and get a release candidate out.
16:32:03 <gjanssens> Ditto
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16:33:01 <gjanssens> If lmat currently doesn't have time to work on gnucash, I'll have to pick his brain next week about his kvp flattening work
16:33:25 <gjanssens> I've got the feeling it's breaking a few kvp dependent features
16:33:35 <gjanssens> That should get fixed before 3.0
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16:34:29 <jralls> Indeed. There's also chris's PRs.
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16:35:15 <jralls> And I think all of BobIT's new UI is completely undocumented.
16:35:31 <gjanssens> yes, I'll hope to be able to review chris' work next week as well
16:36:14 <gjanssens> Should we make a list of new features and ask for documentation help on the devel list ?
16:36:39 <jralls> Yeah, good idea. Otherwise we have to write it ourselves!
16:36:48 <gjanssens> :)
16:39:43 <gjanssens> I'll leave you to it. I've got to rise and shine early tomorrow...
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