2018-01-11 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:12:55 <gjanssens> .
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04:56:01 <chris> It was never my intention but now I love emacs :-/
04:56:01 <gncbot> chris: Sent 20 hours and 7 minutes ago: <lmat> no sweat. I'll take a look.
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12:30:03 <jralls> .
12:30:03 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 1 day, 3 hours, and 36 minutes ago: <lmat> 792008 certainly did slip my mind. Thanks for the reminder.
12:34:33 <jralls> gjanssens: I've sort-of figured out the crash in AQBanking setup on Windows. When optimized GWEN_Gui_ReadDialogPrefs munges its stack when returning from AB_Gui_ReadDialogPrefs. The code in both seems perfectly vanilla so I have to assume it's a gcc problem.
12:37:42 <jralls> With -O0 in CFLAGS the problem goes away and the AQBanking setup dialog launches and seems to work.
12:38:30 <jralls> So I think that we'll just have to build gwen unoptimized on Mingw64.
12:38:52 <gjanssens> jralls: good work and I agree with the workaround
12:39:32 <gjanssens> Should we report this somewhere in mingw64 or gcc fora/bugtrackers in the hope of getting it fixed at some point ?
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12:54:13 <jralls> I suppose we should; I guess it would be gcc. I'll ping Martin first since it's his code that has the problem.
12:56:03 <jralls> On the topic of upstream bugs, did you see the latest on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790845 about test-backend-dbi?
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13:03:44 <gjanssens> jralls: I saw that one yes. What do you think could be happening there ?
13:04:35 <gjanssens> Would the "-1" be interpreted to be of the wrong length ?
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13:11:57 <jralls> I don't understand it yet. It looks like the -1 is getting treated as a pointer instead of as a value.
13:19:35 <gjanssens> Hmm, should we use G_INT_2_POINTER on the value then ?
13:20:07 <gjanssens> Doesn't really make sense that would work on x86_64 and not on i386 though...
13:29:27 <jralls> I don't think so, G_INT_2_POINTER is a cast and requires using G_POINTER_2_INT at the other end; it exists to hide from the type system that you're using a void* to pass an int value. Since g_object_get/set take variable arg lists the type system doesn't inspect what's passed in.
13:30:07 <jralls> And yes, it's totally weird that it works in 64-bit but not 32-bit.
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15:55:50 <warlord> jralls: gjanssens --- There is an extremely high chance I'll be moving in the next 4 weeks. This implies moving my equipment as well, which will entail some downtime. I'm going to attempt to get everything set up for minimal downtime.
15:56:32 <jralls> warlord: Meaning you've just contracted on a new house and expect to close < 4 weeks from now?
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15:56:56 <warlord> No, we closed on the new house back in October.
15:57:10 <warlord> We're under contract to sell the current house.
15:58:06 <jralls> Huh. If I'd already closed on the new one I'd have moved and let the realtor have its way with the old one. No matter, though. Still in Atlanta?
16:08:47 <warlord> Yeah, 10 miles away. We want to renovate the new house, but the funds to do that are tied up in the current house.
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16:15:07 <jralls> Ah. So are you moving to a rental while you do the renovation?
16:15:17 <warlord> Yes.
16:16:21 <warlord> So I plan to set up the network infrastructure first, then move my computers . The move will take some time, because I have to pull stuff out of the rack.
16:17:31 <warlord> And then in ~6 months get to move it again.
16:18:02 <jralls> If you can keep the subs under control and hold to the schedule... :-/
16:18:12 <warlord> right.
16:18:18 <warlord> there is that.
16:22:33 <jralls> How long do you think the equipment move will take? 2-3 days?
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16:26:17 <warlord> Ideally only about 1 hour, but worst case ~12h
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17:27:53 <fell> While saving a check template, I get a mixed message "Cannot open file /home/frank/.gnucash/checks/KeinOffset.chk: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden"
17:29:26 <fell> to provoke this I removed ~/.gnucash/checks/.
17:31:12 <fell> I can not locate the untranslated part except in core-utils/gnc-gkeyfile-utils.c.
17:31:44 <fell> and in pwarnings
17:35:40 <fell> jralls, some idea what i am missing?
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18:15:23 <fell> @tell gjanssens Do you remember? At some point we talked about merging from goffice's po.files into ours to avoid duplicate work on all their strings.
18:15:23 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
18:30:13 <jralls> .
18:31:35 <fell> Hi, jralls
18:32:44 <jralls> Hi. On which branch do you get the mixed message?
18:33:00 <fell> I am still on maint
18:33:59 <fell> gnc-gkeyfile-utils doesn't use gettext.
18:34:01 <jralls> OK. It's probably not really a mixed message, it's probably "Cannot open file %s: %s", filename, error message.
18:34:45 <fell> I am wondering, why it is used instead of gnc-filepath-utils.
18:35:15 <jralls> Have you looked through history?
18:35:25 <fell> Nope
18:45:45 <jralls> It appears to be a thin wrapper around gkeyfile.c. There's nothing convenient to route through gnc-filepath-utils.c. My question is why has it not been localized in its 14 years of existence?
18:46:39 <fell> 1. It will not so often appear
18:47:19 <fell> 2. You can only be shure if you have a almost complete translation.
18:47:39 <fell> +n
18:48:13 <jralls> No, it's because they're log messages. They're for us, not for the user. We want those to stay in English. As I suspected, it's getting the reason from the OS and that's localized.
18:49:03 <fell> Then it should not appear in a user dialog box.
18:49:25 <jralls> There aren't any strings in there intended for users. The same is true of gnc-filepath-utils, none of the strings are localized there either.
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20:36:33 <fell> jralls, the wiki applicant rvklassen is in your domain ;-)
21:03:25 <chris> when digging in, what does qof stand for? eg. qof-print-date
21:04:23 <fell> query object framework, chris
21:05:02 <chris> hmm it makes sense it terms of qof-query, but not so much with qof-print-date lol
21:05:16 <chris> I gathered qof stands for 'next-gen'
21:05:40 <fell> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Glossary#Q
21:08:16 <fell> Perhaps you can query, which format to use for printing dates ;-)
21:08:22 <chris> I have, in my mind, a cloudy idea to implement PivotTable as a report
21:08:40 <chris> fell lol I doubt that wsa the original intent
21:11:56 <chris> vertical axis = account list, horiz axis = periodic dates for instance
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