2018-01-09 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:38:00 <lmat> @tell Crof Gnucash is a large project, and rather complicated. Much of the current development effort will make several aspects of it simpler. It will take a little while to become productive in the project, but if you're looking for a somewhat long-term hobby, gnucash would be great. If you're just looking to fix a bug and be done, I would recommend keep looking. In general, much of the low hanging fruit
09:38:00 <gncbot> lmat: The operation succeeded.
09:38:06 <lmat> has been picked, and that's not just true of gnucash but all free software projects.
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12:17:26 <fell> lmat: you should retell the truncated part.
12:39:02 <lmat> fell: I didn't see the operation succeeded for a while, so I gave up :-)
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12:39:17 <lmat> @tell Crof ... has been picked, and that's not just true of gnucash but all free software projects.
12:39:17 <gncbot> lmat: The operation succeeded.
12:39:54 <fell> :-)
12:40:21 <lmat> fell: For some reason, using irssi on tmux over ssh, I sometimes don't see direct messages (with my name highlighted). They don't scroll, but people entering or leaving the channel, or other messages I see immediately :-/
12:40:37 <ultimaq> Hello everyone I am trying to move over my company to gnucash. That being said I would like to know if there has been any slow down issue noted for gnucash on ubuntu 16.04 and any possible solution if so.
12:44:20 <fell> ultimaq: I don't remember perhaps scan our -user mailinglist and the ubuntu forum?
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12:49:49 <ultimaq> Okay I'll go ahead and try to find that. I gotta admit that i havent done this before, i just wanted to get away from quickbooks and this looked like a good move. also just to let you guys know that im also having keyboard issues where the backspace and arrow key buttons dont work inside gnucash
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12:52:23 <fell> ultimaq: I fear not many devs are using the unity desktop.
12:55:17 <fell> Can you temporary switch to e.g. gnome to compare the behaviour?
12:55:19 <ultimaq> im using Ubuntu Mate with Gnome3 I saw that unity was gonna die so i switched to mate
12:55:34 <ultimaq> I was also on XFCE and the issue persisted
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12:59:59 <fell> ultimaq: your gnucash version?
13:01:33 <fell> You can find the list of open GUI bugs at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=User%20Interface%20General&list_id=279506&product=GnuCash
13:06:56 <ultimaq> My GnuCash version is 2.6.12
13:07:43 <fell> Perhaps you should update to one of getdeb's more recent versions.
13:07:44 <jralls> Hmm, desktop shouldn't matter for key events, and any key event issues should be the same for all Gtk/Gnome apps.
13:09:05 <ultimaq> For some reason it just doesnt register backspace key in the transaction title lines, the amounts can sometime use it but it is quite variable
13:09:49 <ultimaq> i was trying to build the latest from source but it seems to be difficult to do as its stating that i have broken packages for some reason
13:12:05 <fell> You should not install into the distros used directories. Instead use /opt/... or /usr/local/...
13:16:19 <jralls> If you have broken packages you need to get that sorted first. That has nothing to do with GnuCash. Once you've got that fixed so that `sudo apt-get build-dep gnucash` works you should be able to unpack the tarball and just run configure && make && make check. If you prefer cmake and ninja (much faster) you'll need those installed too and the command line will be a bit different, see README.cmake in the source dir.
13:19:03 <fell> jralls, did you consider porting cstims windows patch on macos?
13:20:22 <ultimaq> I think it is an issue with my ubuntu installation and the addition of an elementary package that made it all broken
13:22:06 <jralls> fell: I'm actually thinking of partially reverting cstim's patch. If Martin thinks that AQB 5.7 is beta then I don't think we should be pushing it to our windows and mac users. They haven't signed up to be beta testers and they'll file any bugs they encounter with us instead of with Martin.
13:26:01 <jralls> That aside, cstim also hasn't been paying attention so he only updated the almost-obsolete part of gnucash-on-windows, so gwen and ktoblzcheck versions need to be updated in gnucash.modules. gnucash-on-osx is behind on ktoblzcheck and needs to be updated.
13:27:01 <jralls> ultimaq: The keyboard issue or the apt-get one?
13:29:04 <ultimaq> the broken packages
13:29:42 <ultimaq> currently im trying to see if the snap of gnucash would see the same issue since im being kinda lazy about my packages
13:30:41 <fell> jralls, there have been several threads on gnucash-de and aqbanking-user, where updates were required because communication with banks stoped. Martin applied patches and the users can continue using their bank.
13:33:56 <jralls> fell: That's nice. But there's presumably other work in 5.7 that Martin considers not ready for general use or he wouldn't be calling the 5.7 releases "beta".
13:34:27 <jralls> fell: So Martin should back-port the patches to his 5.6 branch and release 5.6.13.
13:35:29 <fell> Much work for a One-man-show ;-)
13:37:21 <jralls> fell: Well, I sympathize, but not much. We also have a lot of work and not many developers, yet we manage a stable release every 3 months and an unstable one every month.
13:38:51 <fell> Usually he released in his christmas holydays, so there is still hope...
13:40:09 <jralls> ultimaq: The issue is unlikely to be in GnuCash. Keyboard event handling is done in libgdk.
13:42:33 <ultimaq> and thats the one that stated it was broken, shit. thanks for the help guys ill go and try to fix it, I hope that i can.
13:43:15 <fell> Good luck, ultimaq!
13:47:14 <jralls> ultimaq: libgdk is pretty fundamental. You may need to kill the gui and work from one of the consoles.
13:57:52 <ultimaq> Okay so the snap just finished installing and it works with the keyboard. Its a bit clunky since it wont open my links but its better than not having backspace. I feel like it was a bug i was running into with the previous version of gnucash, because upon reinstalling the one via ppa it still fails to register keystrokes.
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14:19:05 <jralls> ultimaq: That's probably because a snap has all of it's own libraries *including libgdk*.
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16:40:50 <chris> just a quick question jralls - when gnucash loads a datafile, it also loads the list of tabs - any idea off memory where the list of tabs is stored?
16:41:14 <chris> trying to debug because this list of tabs also contains data pertinent to reports
16:42:09 <jralls> chris: in $GNC_DATA_DIR/books/datafile.gcm
16:42:37 <chris> oh yeah
16:42:42 <chris> thx!
16:43:11 <jralls> chris: Other report info is in $GNC_DATA_DIR/saved-reports-2.4.
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16:44:03 <chris> yeah this one i know
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17:35:51 <jralls> lmat: Did bug 792008 slip your mind?
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20:47:17 <domato> Hey every one, There is news about World Money for 2018?
20:48:53 <jralls> domato: Darned if I know. WTF is "World Money"?
20:55:32 <domato> Sorry for the confusion. It is not relevant.
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