2017-11-12 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:21:20 <gjanssens> .
03:23:29 <chris_> lmat: https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash-time64 but I'm struggling to create a PR to merge to yours
03:23:55 <chris_> https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash-time64/tree/time64-ftw rather
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05:28:30 <chris_> lmat: actually i figured it out - https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/time64-ftw onwards
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06:35:54 <ef> Hello there! I have some troubles getting currencies exchange rates within gnucash.
06:36:15 <ef> I get the error message
06:36:17 <ef> Unable to retrieve quotes for these items:
06:36:19 <ef> CURRENCY:USD
06:36:21 <ef> CURRENCY:EUR
06:36:46 <ef> I am using Fedora 26 and perl-Finance-Quote seems to be installed.
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07:28:11 <lmat> chris_: I don't know how to do anything like that in github. I would recommend running git remote add -t time64-ftw lmat git@github.com:limitedatonement/gnucash; (then you have my branch as lmat/time64-ftw). Then, since you already have some commits, put them on top of my work with git rebase --onto lmat/time64-ftw <branch start> <branch head>; <branch start> might be gnucash/unstable? and I forgot
07:28:17 <lmat> your branch's name for branch head.
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10:49:01 <getling> Anyone able to help troubleshoot AlphaVantage errors?
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10:50:33 <getling> OSX 10.12.6, F::Q 1.45, key exported, command: perl /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-dump alphavantage SCHB.US, error: 'malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, at character offset 0 (before "Can't connect to www...") at /Library/Perl/5.18/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm line 138.'
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11:06:34 <gjanssens> ef: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F
11:07:08 <ef> gjanssens: Thanks! I'll read it right away!
11:08:51 <gjanssens> You're welcome
11:09:46 <ef> gjanssens: so I suspect the Service Change: Finance::Quote
11:10:16 <ef> Is there a way to update the Finance::Quote to version 1.41 if Fedora is currently on 1.38?
11:11:40 <gjanssens> ef: good question... You may be able to do it via cpan. This is a perl module repository and the home of F::Q
11:11:52 <ef> Like, using some perl inbuilt stuff
11:12:18 <gjanssens> I haven't tried this although I'm on Fedora as well (I'm not using the online quotes myself)
11:13:15 <gjanssens> cpan can be installed via dnf/yum. The package name is perl-CPAN
11:14:42 <gjanssens> ef: we have a wiki page on cpan, though I don't know whether it's up to date: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/CPAN
11:19:57 <ef> aha... s_u_d_o cpan -i Finance::Quote seems to have done the trick)
11:21:08 <gjanssens> :)
11:23:07 <getling> @gjanssens - relatedly, any idea on my error message?
11:23:07 <gncbot> getling: Error: "gjanssens" is not a valid command.
11:23:33 <getling> gjanssens: relatedly, any idea on my error message?
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11:24:42 <gjanssens> getling: unfortunately no
11:24:54 <gjanssens> I suggest you post this on the gnucash-user mailing list
11:25:00 <getling> Thanks.
11:25:09 <getling> That was going to be my next stop :)
11:25:11 <gjanssens> The author of finance::quote monitors that list
11:26:16 <ef> hm... the currencies still dont load...
11:27:19 <gjanssens> ef: there have been several threads on the gnucash-user list recently and I believe the currencies problems came up there as well
11:27:37 <gjanssens> I haven't followed them closely so I can't tell you much more
11:28:00 <gjanssens> Perhaps you can search the list archive or it's nabble mirror for mre info
11:28:24 <ef> gjanssens: all right, I'll look there! Thank you for your help!
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11:28:56 <gjanssens> You're welcome :)
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12:46:15 <fell> gjanssens: gnucash ships a lelper script gnc-fq-update. just run it as root (su[do] ...)
12:46:30 <fell> helper
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13:22:25 <gjanssens> fell: that helper script is not always installed via distro packages and in fact it's not on Fedora :(
13:22:42 <gjanssens> Which makes sense as they normally have a separate package for F::Q
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13:28:15 <fell> gjanssens: I would prefer if they did it like SuSE: thei patch a warning about loosing support.
13:29:38 <fell> and use different pathes perl modules from distro and CPAN
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18:57:33 <fell> jralls, about Liz's change, I had the self thought.
18:59:09 <fell> Perhaps we should add a new entry to www, to lead the attention orf more users to the current discussion on gnucash-user.
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19:31:28 <warlord> fell: Too bad the news feed isn't on the top of the main page anymore... ;)
19:32:14 <fell> IMHo that move was not very clever.
19:32:58 <warlord> It can always be reverted.
19:40:08 <jralls> Maybe we could have that part two ways: List headlines on the main page that link to the articles in the news page.
19:41:15 <fell> Good idea!
19:42:52 <jralls> But the real problem is SEO, I think. Too many users are having their monthly price downloads break and when they search for it they come up empty.
19:48:43 <fell> Also the "unknown system error" could be more verbose.
19:51:41 <jralls> It could. Also more correct: It's generally not a system error, it's a failed download of some sort. Making it actually useful would require more sophisticated error handling inside of gnc-fq-helper and quotes.scm.
19:52:04 <CDB-Away_> hmm, after using it for a few days, i can confirm that alphavantage seems cannot do currency. and the currency cannot have its source data changed
19:53:43 <CDB-Away_> always defaults to single -- currency, if you try to edit it, it reverts back
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19:57:15 <CDB-Away_> Lovely
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19:57:50 <fell> But I used the wrong pattern
20:01:11 <CDB-Away> At least the job is done!
20:01:55 <fell> It is using every night a different name and ip.
20:05:24 <CDB-Away> Sigh
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20:19:36 <warlord> I try to remove them from the logs when I see them
20:38:24 <jralls> CDB-Away: IIRC there's a hard-coded currency source in F::Q. I think that's what Erik is messing with in 1.47. If you're feeling lucky you can try it out.
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21:13:19 <Robert> Hi, I want to update Finance:Quote in Ubuntu 16.04 but Synaptic cannot find it. What is the best procedure?
21:16:30 <Robert> I have been trying to find the procedure in the user mail list but there is now too much hay and I cannot find the needle.
21:17:29 <warlord> Robert: use cpan??
21:19:36 <Robert> I found the tarball Finance-Quote-1.46 but what do I do next?
21:21:04 <Robert> After I download it from CPAN, then what do I do?
21:22:30 <warlord> Robert: it depends. you can use the perl -MCPAN install ... command to install it. Or you can wait for a package
21:24:59 <Robert> Wouldn't waiting for a package mean probably waiting months for a backport or the next LTS version of Ubuntu?
21:26:51 <Robert> Are there instructions somewhere on how to use perl-MCPAN for newbies who have never done that?
21:28:01 <warlord> No clue. I don't do DebUnuntu
21:28:21 <warlord> Should be a couple days to a week ... At least that's what I expect for Fedora.
21:31:02 <Robert> I have posted this question on the maillist, but it has not appeared yet, so I am not sure where it got stuck.
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21:33:12 <fell> If you did not subscribe it is waiting for the moderator.
21:34:04 <Robert> That was at 7:51 Central Time. I subscribed years ago and I thought they usually went through in minutes
21:35:23 <fell> Central of which entity?
21:35:59 <Robert> Chicago Ill Central. About 45 minutes ago
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21:37:11 <Robert> I am known on the user maillist as David C
21:38:42 <warlord> which list?
21:41:12 <Robert> the header on my post:
21:41:14 <Robert> David Carlson <david.carlson.417@gmail.com>
21:41:16 <Robert>
21:41:16 <Robert> 7:51 PM (48 minutes ago)
21:41:19 <Robert>
21:41:20 <Robert> to gnucash-user
21:42:06 <Robert> "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
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21:49:21 <Robert> I see that John Ralls found my other post about this and replied, and his reply went to my spam folder. So part of this some quirk in the way mygmail is set up
21:50:52 <Robert> Thank you John
21:53:07 <Robert> I will look at that perl stuff and if I have more questions I know where to find you.
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