2017-11-01 GnuCash IRC logs

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07:57:56 <chris> jralls: just a mid-project report, the transaction.scm is shocking
07:58:17 <chris> it's a maze of twisty passages all alike
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10:11:48 <lmat> chris: Since scheme is a labyrinth to me, I'm not sure what I would make of labyrinthine scheme :-S
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10:37:12 <lmat> I'm having an interesting difficulty with a unit test not passing. It fails with "gnc.module-WARNING **: Could not locate module gnucash/app-utils interface v.0". I used a debugger to get more information: it's looking in /usr/local..., the DEFAULT_MODULE_PATH. I think it should be looking in my build directory instead.
10:38:21 <lmat> Anyway, I've made a good deal of changes, but I don't think I've done anything that would change the module loading bit. Do the unit tests always look in the DEFAULT_MODULE_PATH? So, have my unit tests always been running against installed gnucash modules since I don't define GNC_MODULE_PATH?
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11:36:52 <lmat> When I look at the output of a cmake ninja build and see app-utils sandwiched with core-utils and common/test-core builds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMupATOJKWc&t=1405&list=PLHTh1InhhwT7J5jl4vAhO1WvGHUUFgUQH
11:37:01 <lmat> So satisfying
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11:42:55 <gjanssens> .
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11:48:30 <warlord> .
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12:23:38 <Trel> I was googling for a way to reorder some transactions that occur on the same date, and I found an old bug report that implies that there's a way to do this now, but I can't figure out how. Any idea?
12:23:49 <Trel> But report I'm referencing: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700804
12:24:44 <Trel> *bug
12:32:51 <warlord> Trel: assign numeric numbers in the number field.
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12:38:01 <Trel> Any limitations? If not, the best option would probably be the time of day in 24h format
12:38:12 <Trel> (leading 0's allowed?)
12:38:35 <Trel> Though the bug report was talking about transactions with the same number, so I'm not sure if that's the same thing
12:38:59 <warlord> It's a numeric compare. Leading zeros are (probably) ignored -- I think it uses atoi() and to strtoul(). I'd have to check. But you'd be safer NOT using leading zeros
12:39:23 <warlord> er, atoi() and NOT strtoul()
12:39:33 <warlord> But 900 < 1000
12:41:58 <Trel> At the moment, I tried with leading 0's and it looks like it works right, though I'm still talking overall about reordering ones where it's the same
12:42:11 <Trel> Though for now, I fudged it a bit
12:42:25 <warlord> great!
12:43:27 <lmat> Trel: Tangential: Why do you care about the ordering within the day?
12:43:32 <Trel> I normally move from my monthly checking to a long term saving, but that was happening before the last paycheck went in, so I was seeing it drop to negative, THEN go back to positive, when in reality, the paycheck hits first.
12:43:52 <lmat> I see, that is unsightly.
12:44:26 <lmat> Trel: I'm guessing the transfer and the paycheck hit at the same time: close of business that day, right?
12:44:34 <Trel> I do that move after the paycheck hits, so reality, was Paycheck -> Account Transfer, but alphabetically, 'Account Transfer' happens first.
12:44:45 <Trel> Account transfer is manual, which I do after the paycheck hits.
12:45:24 <lmat> Trel: I see
12:46:00 <lmat> Trel: And those account transfers aren't pending for the rest of the day, posting at the end of the day. They're instantaneous?
12:46:11 <lmat> (approximately instantaneous of course ^_^)
12:46:41 <Trel> They probably are, but they're happening AFTER the paycheck is deposited and cleared, so no matter what happens, Account Transfer happens second.
12:47:06 <Trel> Though, second question then, can a default number be defined for all new transactions or do I have to enter it manually each time?
12:48:59 <lmat> Trel: I don't know of any way to get a default number on each transaction.
12:50:25 <Trel> Darn, I gotta run, but I'll look back later in case anyone else knew one. If I'm going to order them, it'd be nice if all of them default to something, say 1200, ease of ordering the ones that DO matter.
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14:25:39 <lmat> I'll revert my changes back to a known working state and apply them a little slower.
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15:03:26 <Papoune> https://cryptosrevolution.wixsite.com/beta
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15:16:44 <lmat> I just realized...after gobject is removed from the codebase, does that mean this is no longer a gnome project?
15:17:03 <warlord> gobject it glib/gtk, not gnome
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16:13:36 <lmat> warlord: gtk is gnome toolkit?
16:15:06 <warlord> Yes, but that doesn't necessarily make it a "Gnome" project.
16:18:53 <lmat> Oh, okay
16:22:11 <warlord> Generally "gnome project" implies use of libgnome
16:41:54 <gjanssens> warlord, lmat: as of gtk 3.0, libgnome is no more so its use can't define a "gnome" project any more.
16:41:57 <gjanssens> https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/LibgnomeMustDie
16:42:40 <gjanssens> I think the definition of a "gnome" project is more liberal in the sense that it targets the gnome desktop environment and makes efforts to integrate with it
16:43:34 <gjanssens> And whether or not the project community wishes to identify itself as such
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16:44:57 <gjanssens> I'm not a fan of the gnome desktop environment personally, although I appreciate what the project is doing to advance the free desktop (whatever that is).
16:45:38 <gjanssens> But tonight's not the night for me to go into long discussions on that subject unfortunately. Too busy...
16:47:42 <anket> I created a Transaction Report for an account, and noticed that the prices listed in the report can differ from what was actually entered in the record for the account. Why might this happen, and what is the fix to ensure the report is accurate?
16:51:58 * warlord hates the gnome3 desktop
16:52:08 <warlord> for a while I used the gnome2 fallback
16:52:10 <warlord> now I use XFce
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