2017-10-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:30:06 <gjanssens> .
03:30:06 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 10 hours and 44 minutes ago: <jralls> I'm OK with adding small business .
03:30:07 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 10 hours and 38 minutes ago: <jralls> We don't use the tagline everywhere . It's not on the website or in the docs. In the sources it's in doc/README.translator.txt, doc/TRANSLATION_HOWTO, and gnucash/gnome-utils/gnc-main-window.c. It's also in the wiki's Translation page. Only the instance in gnc-main-window.c isn't an example for translators.
03:30:08 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 10 hours and 32 minutes ago: <jralls> As long as you're looking at that, the line above is The GnuCash personal finance manager. . That doesn't really go well with the new second line, and finance manager might lead some people to think it does what Quicken does... for the very few who ever look at the About box.
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09:28:08 <warlord> .
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11:27:35 <sjk> I'm having trouble getting the fetching of current values of mutual funds to work
11:28:26 <sjk> I could create an external script that scrapes the stock broker website to fetch the data
11:28:34 <sjk> Is there an easy way of entering that into gnucash?
11:28:56 <sjk> (Into the "value database", ;
11:29:08 <sjk> I'm not sure what it's called in english, my gnucash is in Swedish :)
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11:35:29 <sjk> And by entering, I mean importing it.
11:36:20 <sjk> Could I for example create a csv file containing ISIN number and current value and import that into gnucash somehow?
11:36:34 <sjk> Bonus points if it can be done from the commandline or even crontab
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13:02:40 <fell> sjk: if you can fetch them with finance::quote try --add-price-quotes=yourfilename
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13:26:32 <sjk> fell: ah, great.
13:27:16 <sjk> How does one add new price sourcesto the investment editor thingy?
13:31:18 <fell> sjk: start here: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes
13:32:59 <fell> Anothre snippet is here https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/acct-create.html#Online-price-setup
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14:00:17 <fell> gjanssens: I renamed the wiki page „How to add a new preference“ to „Adding Preferences“ and linked it in GnuCash#Procedures
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14:07:08 <rietta> I may have messed something up earlier this year. I have two employees listed - our payroll is handled by an outside service. For one, I have an employee report showing a negative balance for his medical insurance reimbursements (which believe it or not are not tracked through payroll for any non-owner employee) and then also one net paycheck from January from before I started using a fully automated payroll service.
14:07:58 <rietta> Anyway, these payments all have references and are showing up by selecting the employee and running the Employee Report. They are entered on the Accounts Payable register but do not have a matching bill.
14:08:34 <rietta> Do I add vouchers (that’s the same as a vendor bill more or less?) for each of these or go back and modify them to just be cash transactions from the checking account they were paid from?
14:10:57 <gjanssens> fell: Ok
14:11:55 <fell> just before it get forgotten and rotten. ;-)
14:13:18 <gjanssens> rietta: The Employee and Voucher menus should only be used to track expenses an employee has made on behalf of his employer. Not for anything else.
14:14:13 <gjanssens> So you can either track your employees as "vendors selling their time to your company" or keep them out of the business options completely.
14:15:33 <gjanssens> If you decide to track them as vendors, you should create a vendor account for each of your employees, and create (virtual) bills for each expense related to them.
14:15:51 <gjanssens> You can then pay these (virtual) bills to keep the accounts in balance.
14:16:46 <gjanssens> In this case you can also reassign your employee payments to new bills you create using the "Assign as payment" menu option for the payment transactoin in your checkings/cash account.
14:17:32 <gjanssens> If you decide not to bother tracking your employees as vendors, I think your best way forward is to delete the payments and enter them again as normal transactions.
14:17:42 <gjanssens> fell: indeed :)
14:17:42 <rietta> Okay, suppose I just want to modify these transactions to post correctly…I click on Payment in the report it opens the Accounts Payable register. For the transaciton, it then has a line for Liabilities:Accounts Payable in the Payment column and another line for the checking account in the bill line. Do I just change the Accounts Payable one to be the appropriate expense account?
14:18:36 <gjanssens> No, you should delete it, because the transaction has internal metadata attached to it that links it back to your employee and you don't want to keep that.
14:19:09 <rietta> okay. will do . there are only a few of these since we went with the payroll service.
14:19:17 <rietta> Like 5 transactions
14:21:58 <gjanssens> That should be reasonable then indeed :)
14:24:56 <rietta> I’m back to GnuCash after deciding to fire the cloud ;-p Should have never left 10 years ago.
14:25:20 <rietta> Hopefully I’ll be able to contribute code at some point.
14:26:34 <rietta> It’s absolutely shocking to me how few people know about it. I’ve asked close friends who are professional paid accountants and none of them had ever heard of it ever.
14:26:58 <rietta> Both working in a CPA firm and who work in corporate finance and accounting
14:28:51 <gjanssens> That's probably one reason they never heard of it. Gnucash is targetted as personal and small business finance.
14:29:19 <gjanssens> People doing corporate fincance and accounting have completely different needs...
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14:34:10 <carwynnelson> gncbot: update me
14:34:10 <gncbot> carwynnelson: Error: "update" is not a valid command.
14:35:13 <carwynnelson> update me gncbot
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14:41:17 <rietta> Thanks gjanssens
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15:17:57 <lmat> carwynnelson: ^_^ You can say anything to anyone, and gncbot will update you. You can also /msg gncbot @notes carwynnelson and he'll tell you privately.
15:18:07 <carwynnelson> cheers
15:18:48 <carwynnelson> BTW lmat I still need to reply to your emails. I'm heading into my "home office" now to work on some of those suggestions
15:19:03 <carwynnelson> Unfortunately I only get an hour or two after work for this sort of thing :)
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15:25:52 <lmat> carwynnelson: cheers
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17:09:44 <carwynnelson> Hi guys - I'm having a problem running cmake that I wasn't before
17:10:06 <carwynnelson> can't find package 'gwenhywfar'
17:10:16 <carwynnelson> working off a branch that is based from master
17:10:33 <carwynnelson> ubuntu 17.10 - I've installed the gwenhywfar-tools package but no dice
17:10:35 <carwynnelson> very confused
17:12:17 <carwynnelson> ah - I think it's because I have AQBANKING enabled
17:12:18 <carwynnelson> my bad
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18:31:43 <lmat> @tell carwynnelson Glad you got that sorted!
18:31:43 <gncbot> lmat: The operation succeeded.
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19:17:17 <jralls> @tell carwinnelson Having AQBanking enabled is good. You need development packages for dependencies, so gwenhywfar-dev rather than gwenhywfar-tools. `apt-get build-deps gnucash` should get you everything you need for maint, and then add boost and goggletest for unstable/master.
19:17:17 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
19:21:31 <jralls> shakes808: The most complete notes about what's been changed is git history, which you can browse on Github; You can also read the ChangeLog file on Github or if you have the sources checked out; it's generated from git history at the time of each release. The most significant changes in each release are abstracted into NEWS, also at Github and prettied up for the Release announcements (click the "releases
19:22:32 <jralls> " tab on the Github main page or visit https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml.
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20:55:08 <shakes808> jralls: sounds good. thank you.
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