2017-10-16 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:19:31 <gjanssens> .
04:19:31 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 12 hours and 48 minutes ago: <jralls> You probably saw my push yesterday converting Macs to webkit1. With that and an rpath fixup for Mac that I'm working on now I think we're finally ready to release 2.7.0. I intend to use a new tag, 2.7.0a so that the other work of the last month is included.
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11:04:39 <gjanssens> jralls: I did see your commits. I completely agree with your decision to revert back to webkit1 on OS X in order to get a first 2.7.0 release out.
11:05:15 <gjanssens> Hopefully you can sort the remaining webkit2 issues in time for the final 2.8.
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11:07:11 <warlord> .
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12:46:00 <jralls> gjanssens: I'm trying to get sorted the Windows packaging issues that Bob Ferrell reported last week. As soon as I have that (I hope only an hour or two more) I'll go ahead and do the release. I have the commits staged but not pushed.
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12:47:19 <jralls> I looked over the open PRs and didn't see anything that's ready to merge, though Chris Lam added a typo fix today that shouldn't be a problem. Do you have anything pending?
12:48:59 <gjanssens> jralls: No. I just got back yesterday and I'm still catching up
12:49:17 <jralls> Ah, OK. Fun trip?
12:49:53 <gjanssens> Yes. I went hiking for 6 days in Ireland with my brother-in-law :)
12:50:07 <gjanssens> I enjoyed every bit of it
12:50:46 <jralls> Very nice indeed! What part of Ireland?
12:51:01 <gjanssens> Wicklow Mountains, just south of Dublin
12:53:11 <jralls> Lovely. We drove through there with a stop in Kilkenny on our trip a few years ago.
12:54:22 <jralls> Back to GnuCash. It's logging an error "org.gnucash.general schema not found", but I don't see anything matching that name in the sources.
12:56:51 <gjanssens> jralls: that should be in gnucash/gnome/gschemas/org.gnucash.gschema.xml.in.in
12:56:58 <gjanssens> (according to a first grep)
12:57:54 <gjanssens> Yes, it's defined in there. So apparently that schema is not built/installed properly.
12:58:10 <jralls> Hmm, that schema is present.
12:58:45 <jralls> Or rather, org.gnucash.gschema.xml is present.
13:00:49 <jralls> Along that line, any idea why the schemas would need to be recompiled on installation from this build but not from the old build? Is there a difference between maint and unstable in how we're using gschema?
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13:05:14 <gjanssens> jralls: no idea, I wasn't even aware we were recompiling the schemas on installation
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13:07:48 <jralls> We aren't, and they don't work. It's part of what Bob reported Friday as part of what he needed to fix to get GnuCash to start. Part of the problem was that I had left the Schema directory out of the bundle, but once I fixed that I still had to compile again to get it to work.
13:09:02 <jralls> The original gschema.compiled is copied over but gsettings seems not to accept it.
13:12:10 <jralls> Ah, I wasn't looking at the right tracefile. The message about org.gnucash.general is from before I ran glib-compile-schemas on the installed schema directory.
13:13:49 <gjanssens> Did you compare the gschemas.compiled files from the build and installed directory for differences ?
13:14:12 <gjanssens> I ran a strings command on one but I don't see anything that could be path specific
13:15:51 * gjanssens has to reboot in an attempt to fix some display issues after upgrading to F26
13:15:54 <gjanssens> BRB
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13:17:58 <gjanssens> Back
13:20:59 <gjanssens> jralls: does your last message mean you don't have to recompile the gschemas on installation or something else ?
13:23:37 <jralls> No, it means that it was the error that was keeping GnuCash from starting until I recompiled the gschemas.
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13:27:10 <jralls> Diffing the results of strings on the old and new produces a ton of differences. grepping org.gnucash.general in each produces some differences as well but it's hard to tell if its significant.
13:27:49 <gjanssens> How odd
13:29:28 <gjanssens> Hmm, thinking this through some more, it makes sense
13:30:11 <gjanssens> gschemas.compiled is built from *all* schemas available to glib2, so this compilation step should happen at install time
13:31:32 <gjanssens> Perhaps we have more (non-gnucash) schemas now that we use msys2 ?
13:33:15 <gjanssens> Hmm, doesn't look like that.
13:33:33 <jralls> Oh... (slaps forehead) No, it's that the schemas are in two places during build. The Glib and Gtk ones are in /mingw32/share/glib-2.0 and the gnucash ones are in the install directory.
13:33:50 <gjanssens> Right. That's it.
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13:37:24 <gjanssens> So we can produce the gschemas.compiled file during our make/ninja install step if we properly include the glib/gtk schemas and then just copy it all over to the bundle.
13:38:02 <gjanssens> For a moment I was worried we had to perform that compilation step while the bundle was being executed to install gnucash...
13:38:11 <gjanssens> Whew :)
13:42:46 <jralls> Looks like we have to copy all of the files together first then run glib-compile-schemas. It takes only one directory argument.
13:44:20 <gjanssens> Saw that indeed. The authors of that tool weren't really thinking multi-platform :(
13:49:32 <jralls> Most Gnome developers have to be regularly reminded that their stuff is used in environments other than Linux and quite a few have the attitude it's someone else's job to take care of the other platforms because they don't want to have to learn about them.
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15:11:16 <jralls> But wait: We don't actually need the glib schemas, and I had set up the bundle to copy them in second so that overwrote gnucash's gschemas.compiled. Pulling in only the gnucash schemas works without a recompile.
15:32:09 <jralls> gjanssens: I've figured out what AQBanking was missing on Windows... but trying to launch the wizard crashes both installed and from the jhbuild install, meaning it probably is something to do with libgwen-gtk3.dll. I'm going to go ahead and release it anyway with a note about it in the NEWS and announcements.
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15:35:20 <gjanssens> jralls: yes, please do. We can continue to chase these issues for the next development snapshot
15:35:34 <jralls> Exactly.
15:35:42 <gjanssens> And good find on the gschemas!
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15:41:23 <gjanssens> jralls: are you sure the Open/Save dialogs don't try to use the schemas in mingw32 ? There's a schema specifically for FileChooser in there...
15:42:03 <jralls> Good question, let me check...
15:43:02 <jralls> Yup, File>Open crashes.
15:45:55 <jralls> Interesting, it does running from jhbuild shell, too, so gsettings doesn't like multiple gschema.compiled.
15:49:57 <gjanssens> Or it doesn't find the mingw32 one
15:50:39 <gjanssens> jralls: Is the mingw32 path part of XDG_DATA_DIRS ?
15:51:35 <gjanssens> From man glib-compile-schemas:
15:51:38 <gjanssens> At runtime, GSettings looks for schemas in the glib-2.0/schemas subdirectories of all directories specified in the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable. The usual location to install schema files is
15:51:41 <gjanssens> /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas.
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15:56:43 <jralls> XDG_DATA_DIRS wasn't defined, but setting it to /mingw32 didn't change anything. Copying org.gtk.Settings.* to $PREFIX/share... and recompiling did.
15:58:07 <gjanssens> jralls: Ok, but remember XDG_DATA_DIRS is a list of paths. So if you only set it to /mingw32 it would fail to find the gnucash schemas.
15:58:20 <gjanssens> Anyway again this can be refined later.
15:58:32 <gjanssens> (if possible)
15:59:39 <jralls> Except that it did find GnuCash's schemas. It didn't crash until I tried to file>open. I think it just latches on to the first gscmemas.compiled it finds.
16:00:36 <jralls> Doesn't really matter for the bundle anyway, there's only the one share directory.
16:01:52 <jralls> Oh, wait: XDG_DATA_DIRS needs to be /mingw32/share, not /mingw32. *That* works.
16:07:53 <gjanssens> I hoped it to be something like that :)
16:09:44 <warlord> ooooh. ok.
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16:21:33 <gjanssens> Ok, I'm off to bed. Good luck jralls with snapshot preparation!
16:21:45 <jralls> Good night!
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16:41:31 <warlord> jralls: FYI, I finally have the tools configured (I think) to attempt to recreate the network issues. I just need to find the time to take my network offline in order to try it..
17:13:06 <jralls> warlord: OK, it there anything I can do to help?
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19:51:52 <warlord> jralls: I just need to know when a good time will be.
19:55:27 <warlord> My plan is to set up my laptop to act as the tunnel endpoint and then I can try to feed data over the tunnel and see if it affects anything. Initially I'd just do some DNS queries, but I might need to do more..
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19:55:59 <warlord> I mean, it's not capacity; I'm only using ~1mbps right now and I'm seeing the issue.
19:57:22 <warlord> Yeah, the issue is definitely not related to capacity. And I just got a 100mbps tick but didn't see the issue. (I wonder what that was?? It was bi-directional)
20:01:09 <warlord> Okay, I've convinced myself it's not at all related to filling the pipe. And I know it's not filling the modem connection/NAT table -- that is sitting under 200 / 4096. So it's definitely something else.
20:03:49 <warlord> jralls: may I unplug the network now?
20:05:11 <warlord> (I don't want to interrupt you if you're doing something)
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20:27:39 <warlord> Hmm... This seems to have made a major difference!
20:28:02 <warlord> I'm going to leave IPv6 off overnight and see what I can see...
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22:09:55 <warlord> jralls: so far, so good.. No network blips. I think I found the trigger. Next I need to track down why it's triggering.
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23:03:52 <Skewsy> I can't get my head around GNUCash. I have duplicate entries, account names of my import files. I'd appreciate any suggestions how to sort it out. Used to use Quicken, perhaps that's part of my problem
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