2017-08-04 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:21:19 <Trel> I'm having a problem figuring out how I'm supposed to add some transactions. I made a blank thing, and added income and a bank account. How do I record something like a paycheck?
01:22:29 <Trel> I guess I should also add, what kind of account should a bank account be?
01:28:59 <jralls> Trel: You need to study the Tutorial and Concepts Guide. You can read it online at http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-guide/index.html or from the Help menu in the program.
01:38:34 <Trel> jralls: I did read that, I still am not getting how to enter income
01:40:25 <Trel> For example, my paycheck. It's income, but what's the second account for the double entry?
01:42:46 <jralls> Trel: Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account or whatever you named it. That's very clearly explained with lots of examples, so you clearly need to *carefully study the Guide*, not just skim it.
01:43:33 <Trel> That makes the income negative. How is that right?
01:45:06 <Trel> Either I'm doing it wrong, or I'm not getting something.
01:47:42 <jralls> Then you entered it backwards. Go study the Guide. You may also find it helpful to read a basic accounting textbook or to take a course.
01:48:57 <Trel> That doesn't make sense
01:49:13 <Trel> Ok, can you just give me a straight answer.
01:49:24 <Trel> $100 as a paycheck, now in my bank account
01:49:42 <Trel> Should the end result be a positive balance in the bank account and a negative balance in the income account?
01:50:05 <Trel> They both can't be positive if those are the two accounts to use, based on what you said, AND what the guide you linked said.
01:50:57 <jralls> You're doing it wrong. You haven't learned the principles of double-entry accounting, and that knowledge is necessary to using GnuCash. The GnuCash team doesn't have time to provide individual instruction. Now either go study like I told you or find a different program to track your money.
01:52:30 <Trel> I'm not asking you to explain how double accounting works. I'm asking you to explain how the program works. When I enter it in one option, it removes it from the other.
01:53:06 <Trel> Here's the thing. I've been googling it, and every result says I'm doing it right.
01:54:13 <jralls> But you obviously aren't. Did you work through the examples in the Guide? Not just skim over them, actually make the entries in the program and observe the results.
01:55:00 <jralls> The program works just like the "T" accounts you'll use in that accounting course you need to take.
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02:01:50 <Trel> In other words, I came away from this worse off than when I came in. You've wasted my time, and told me nothing.
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02:38:54 <gjanssens> .
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04:08:54 <gour> morning
04:09:44 <gour> looking at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Roadmap and on wonder whether that docs is describing something which will be called Gnucash-3?
04:10:49 <gour> moreover, it looks that scheme is going to be phased out as reporting-language in the future, so how long one can expect it to be still alive (roughly)?
04:12:15 <gour> i plan to learn some elisp to be able to tweak Emacs better and wonder if it can help a bit with Scheme/Guile? i was also interested for Racket which shpuld be much closer, but not sure whether the time will permit me to go into that
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18:45:33 <Simon> reports that tell you the apparent current price of a security *really* need to warn you if that price is quite old
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19:36:21 <ArtGravity> Anyone have best practices recommendation for billing pre-paid hours in gnucash?
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21:18:22 <Lynx> Hi, I'm finding that attempting to use the budget feature causes Gnucash to freeze a lot and sometimes crash. i do have the latest version. Is this a normal issue? Is there anything I can do to make it work better?
21:18:38 <Lynx> Right now I've just made a "new budget" and am attempting to add accounts to the budget, but everytime I click anything the program freezes for a few minutes
21:19:14 <bhardwajs> Can you submit a bug report with version and system information? That might help us in taking a look and possibly help you.
21:20:00 <Lynx> Sure.
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21:53:41 <Lynx> Is anyone even able to use the Budget feature successfully? I am curious
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