2017-07-07 GnuCash IRC logs

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00:13:42 <sharp> hi
00:14:05 <sharp> how long does it take to learn and use the basics of gnucash?
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00:18:14 <fell> Almost nothing if you know the basics of accounting ;-)
00:20:07 <sharp> Is it pretty comparable to quickbooks ?
00:20:33 <fell> I would suggest to read https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=2.6&lang=C&doc=guide
00:20:56 <fell> I never used quickbooks
00:20:57 <sharp> Thank you
00:21:09 <fell> welcome
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03:03:12 <shoonya> i am from india new to gnucash and want to know if we can add multiple taxes on a single invoice
03:03:56 <shoonya> for eg, we have to split GST into 2 parts as CGST (union) and SGST (state)
03:04:55 <shoonya> the total GST rate for us would be 18% and this should be shown as CGST=9% and SGST=9% on the invoice
03:05:06 <shoonya> any help ?
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03:12:28 <Chris> Just wondering if Geert is online?
03:15:20 * gjanssens is online
03:17:41 <gjanssens> Chris: were you looking for me ?
03:18:29 <Chris> Yes - just wished to state my current plans with the tree - I'll clean up Doug's .scm reports and add them into menu, and for now I think I'll add an "Experimental Reports" menu option
03:18:47 <Chris> and also as you know I'm slowly hacking at scheme and will perhaps one day succeed in writing a usable report. In Oz a quarterly BAS report would be nice (it which accumulates all GST paid/received). Perhaps I'll submit this one too when I finally succeed
03:19:58 <gjanssens> Chris: that's wonderful.
03:20:16 <Chris> I notice that the internal code uses scheme 1.8.8 and presumably an antique webkit - and I'm guessing these version numbers will not change anytime soon?
03:20:21 <gjanssens> I think the "Experimental Reports" is a good idea
03:22:11 <gjanssens> Webkit will be upgraded in gnucash 2.8 to the webkit2 api because most linux distributions are dropping webkit1.
03:22:41 <gjanssens> As for scheme. I am tempted to raise the requirement to guile 2.0 for gnucash 2.8.
03:23:04 <gjanssens> This is only blocked by our windows build still using guile 1.8 atm.
03:23:56 <gjanssens> Note the estimated release time of gnucash 2.8 will most likely slip primarily due to the unexpected yet mandatory webkit upgrade work.
03:25:14 <Chris> Ok sounds great. sounds a lot of work ahead!
03:25:57 <gjanssens> Indeed, though a large part has been done already.
03:26:08 <gjanssens> It's currently not merged in yet though.
03:27:04 <gjanssens> As for Doug's reports, while they will appear under an Experimental submenu, I believe they can be stored in the standard reports directory in the sources.
03:27:23 <gjanssens> And this work should be done on (a feature brance based off of) master
03:27:52 <Chris> will do
03:27:59 <gjanssens> Good.
03:28:37 <gjanssens> About the PR you closed. Do you intend to make a new one for the two topics in it ?
03:29:14 <Chris> yes I intend to fix them
03:29:39 <gjanssens> Ok, great. So I'll wait for the new one before taking further action on that.
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08:56:04 <warlord> gjanssens: you should have answered shoonya's question :)
08:57:59 <gjanssens> warlord: huh, for some reason I missed that one...
08:58:45 <warlord> Unfortunately they times out after 5 hours and left at 4 minutes past this hour (just under an hour ago)
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11:19:14 <jralls> gjanssens: WRT Guile and Windows, I finally got GnuCash to run in mingw64, including Guile 2.0.12. The changes are pushed to mingw64 branches of gnucash and gnucash-on-windows in my github repo.
11:21:02 <jralls> Meanwhile, the guile guys have released guile 2.2 and 2.0 is "legacy". I haven't tested to learn if we need to make any changes for 2.2, nor have I tried yet to build it on Windows.
11:23:43 <jralls> One of the more interesting changes is that it now supports javascript and emacs lisp as well as scheme. The former might be a useful channel combined with an html library for rendering reports.
11:31:05 <gjanssens> jralls: indeed that may be a useful future direction
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11:31:46 <gjanssens> I don't think I'll have time to check any of your work until after my holidays though
11:32:18 <jralls> Right. We're tag-teaming at this point: You're off this month and I'm off next.
11:32:27 <gjanssens> Count second halve of August...
11:32:51 <gjanssens> "Tag-teaming" is an interesting phrase. I never heard that one before
11:33:30 <gjanssens> With some luck I'll still have some time tomorrow for gnucash.
11:34:14 <gjanssens> Would it make sense I try and consolidate all the gtk3/mingw64/webkit work we have so far (including Bob's) ?
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11:34:56 <gjanssens> From your comments it may be about ready to be merged into master
11:34:57 <jralls> Sorry, that's a very American slang. It comes from professional "wrestling", where two teams of two "compete", with only one from each team allowed in the ring at once. The team members switch off by slapping hands.
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11:36:27 <jralls> Yes, that's exactly my next step: To merge/rebase Bob's gtk3 branch into my mingw64 one and make the necessary adjustments to get the result built on all platforms.
11:36:41 <jralls> That was an interesting burp.
11:37:02 <gjanssens> Indeed. Here's my last message which you probably missed:
11:37:04 <gjanssens> Heh interesting. Let's slap hands on August 1st then :D
11:38:04 <jralls> Will you be anywhere near Munich? Or Heathrow on the 31st?
11:38:12 <jralls> ;-)
11:39:18 <gjanssens> Nope. On the 31st I'll transfer from Florence to Brussels. It'll be a virtual slap I'm afraid.
11:40:18 <gjanssens> Anyway, Bob's branch builds on mine so you would automatically get my work as well when you pull his.
11:40:42 <jralls> Right.
11:41:21 <gjanssens> And that branch includes your gtkwebkit commits also so that would be all (in the gnucash repo at least)
11:41:47 <jralls> But today I'm trying to figure out why changing the default value of use-ns-transaction-text in org.gnucash.dialogs.import.hbci.xml doesn't change the default when I run the program.
11:42:33 * gjanssens is shocked to see his last gtk3 commit is from April 14 :(
11:43:11 <jralls> Yeah, you've been really busy this spring.
11:43:15 <gjanssens> Ah to fix the nasty issue with the ofx fields being merged together in the description field ?
11:43:24 <jralls> Yes.
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12:33:38 <warlord> jralls: gjanssens .. either of you going to be near Paris or Marseilles end of September?
12:36:32 <gjanssens> warlord: in American terms I'd be around the corner... Paris is 1h and a half away from Brussels by fast train
12:37:43 <gjanssens> Got to go for the evening...
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12:50:15 <jralls> warlord: No, I'll be back in California August 24th.
13:03:04 <warlord> Ah well. Just finished my California trip. I'm sure I'll have another.
13:03:34 <jralls> Where did you go?
13:09:49 <warlord> LA, OC, San Diego, and San Jose.
13:09:53 <warlord> (not in that order)
13:11:46 <jralls> Sounds like way too much time at the wrong end of the state. ;-)
13:13:52 <warlord> haha
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