2017-06-24 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:35:27 <budfox> I have a credit card account with two sub accounts. 'joint spending' goes in the main account and individual spending goes into each sub account. Sometimes my other half forgets to tell me she has spent on the credit card. When I call up the online statement the total balance will differ. To spot the missing transactions I will scan down to where
07:35:34 <budfox> the running balance differs
07:36:10 <budfox> however it I right click on the credit card and open sub accounts, the running balance is the total running balance so I cannot find the missing transactions
07:36:49 <budfox> is there a way to show the total running balance in a show sub accounts page?
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09:08:11 <warlord> budfox: no; the best way to handle that is during reconciliation when you get your monthly statement.
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09:09:56 <warlord> The balance column is always based on the "split" balance, which is based on the split->account balance -- when you're showing multiple accounts the "balance" column has no real meaning.
09:10:28 <warlord> You could TRY running an Account Report from the Open Subaccounts register; it *MAY* compute the balance --- -but I'm not 100% sure.
09:11:06 <budfox> thank you, its fine when doing the reconcilliation, but mid period it makes checking against the statement a bit of a nuisance, is there a report option that would work?
09:11:43 <budfox> sorry I typed before you had finished I will try that now
09:12:48 <budfox> yeah the account report does the same it starts with a zero open balance, i need the carried forward balance
09:13:33 <budfox> oh well, never mind. Is there a feature request email address for the package?
09:14:03 <warlord> You can use uservoice and/or bugzilla, but frankly a feature request without an associated pull request is unlikely to get fullfilled anytime soon.
09:14:33 <budfox> okay, thanks for your help. Appreciated
09:14:43 <warlord> sorry I couldn't give you the answer you wanted.
09:14:53 <warlord> I could ask you "why do you have/need multiple subaccounts?"
09:15:11 <warlord> (I dont do that with the joint credit card with my wife)
09:15:54 <budfox> well the thing is we have joint credit cards, most of the spending is joint spending, but there is some spending on each card that is non joint and specific to the user, so that user owes me the extra when I pay the bill
09:16:12 <budfox> how would you approach it then?
09:17:22 <warlord> A single account for the credit card, but transactions that are joint expenses go into expenses, and transactions that are non-joint would go CC -> Assets:Other Person. Then A:O-P would give you the balance of how much they owe you.
09:17:33 <warlord> And when they pay you back, transfer from A:O-P to A:Bank
09:17:37 <warlord> (or cash, or whatever)
09:18:23 <warlord> Their expense (for which you expect reimbursement) is not an "expense" to you.
09:18:26 <budfox> yes I do this already, its when I check the CC statement on line mid period and the GNU balance is out because she has forgot to tell me she spent on it and its figuring out the transaction that needs to be posted
09:18:29 <budfox> if that makes sense
09:19:13 <warlord> Yes, and if it's a single account that will be easier.. BUt there are still possible out-of-order transactions. So using just the balance is not necessarily specific.
09:19:40 <budfox> if it wasnt in the sub account it would be easy. I guess adding the sub account complicates it and I did this as a way to track my non joint spending on the card
09:20:03 <warlord> For example, multiple charges on Friday may come in over the weekend and get posted "out of order". You even with one account you cannot assume the balance in your account will always match the running balance. There may be a sequence of anywhere from 2-5 transactions "out of order"
09:20:26 <warlord> But it would still give you a feel for where to look.
09:20:34 <warlord> ... if you use a single CC account
09:22:09 <budfox> Maybe there is a different question for this then. We each pay a set amount each month into the joint account then anything over and above that which has been spent on the CC needs extra to be transferred so its recording that extra spend
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09:23:07 <warlord> AH!
09:23:17 <warlord> That is a different question.
09:23:43 <warlord> I need to think about that... and I need to step away. I'll think and get back.
09:24:09 <warlord> Worst case, you can subscribe to and email the gnucash-user list and get a wider range of help.
09:24:47 <budfox> That is very kind, thanks, leave it with you.
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12:24:54 <sfbunker> Per Wells Fargo USA customer service, I am unable to use OFX for transaction download due to a modified security protocol
12:26:29 <sfbunker> posted as FYI
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15:40:05 <jralls> gjsnssens: I found another sort-of fix for the gwen windows crash: Roll back to gcc-4.8. I think I like that better than passing it -O0 on gwen.
15:40:15 <jralls> What about you?
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18:50:08 <jralls> @tell gjanssens Now for the really bad news: gcc-6.3 on mingw64 generates the error too.
18:50:08 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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20:32:28 <jralls> @tell gjanssens Woot! The fix is to add CFLAGS="-g -O2 -fno-omit-frame-pointer" to the build recipe.
20:32:28 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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