2017-05-19 GnuCash IRC logs

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14:20:33 <fell> gjanssens, I have a user on gnucash-de complaining the csv import doesn't understand Double Byte Unicode.
14:20:53 <fell> Is anything else than utf-8 supported?
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14:32:05 <fell> ... and do we have any checks for invalid encodings?
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14:41:53 <chf> Not necessarily, fell; he wrote that the broken charakters were double-bytes, but those are also double-bytes in UTF-8:
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14:42:06 <chf> "Nach dem Re-Import sahen alle Umlaute aus wie in einem Programm, welches Double Byte Unicode nicht verstehen kann."
14:43:22 <chf> He exported, then re-imported, and got 2 "unreadable" bytes instead of "ä", and so on.
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14:44:26 <Rana> Hello - I am new to Gnucash. I recently figured out how to load my transactions as a CSV file...but they aren't totaling up under "Expenses". So when I pull an Income Statement, it has a total of $0 for my expenses? help>
14:44:40 <chf> The problem might be that CSV doesn't know aboz encodings generally.
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14:44:51 <fell> The question is: Was the auml from his export or inserted in his edit.
14:45:22 <chf> about
14:45:49 <Rana> So how do I get the totals over to expenses?
14:46:24 <Rana> they were loaded just fine into each account provided/created....but it won't total under the big "expense" line
14:46:25 <chf> I'd guess: import into an account of the type "expenses".
14:46:54 <chf> Or change the account type accorgingly.
14:48:41 <fell> Rana, while importing did you assign expense accounts?
14:49:10 <fell> or do you have them in imbalanced or similar?
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15:39:22 <gjanssens> fell: the importer should be able to handle all byte formats, including UTF-8, UCS2 (UTF-16) and UCS4 (UTF-32)
15:39:42 <gjanssens> The user has to choose the proper encoding on the preview page of the importer.
15:41:00 <fell> gjanssens: OK, I will check it.
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15:59:54 <fell> BTW export and import dialog have different orders of the possible delimiters.
16:05:54 <gjanssens> fell: is that still so in master ?
16:07:37 <fell> File->Import->Import _Accounts from CSV has no selector.
16:07:58 <fell> I am cuurently in MAINT
16:09:53 <fell> When I run it with LANG=de_DE.utf8, I get a preview, with LANG=C the preview is empty.
16:12:21 <fell> and I can not confirm the new book options.
16:14:45 <fell> Import completed successfully. The number was 0 added and 0 updated. :-(
16:15:53 <fell> Forget the last 2 lines. I opened the wrong file.
16:22:02 <fell> Oops, that was the Transaction importer. But that has the nice Preview Settings.
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16:34:46 <fell> OK, I can not switch the language between accounts csv export and import because the headers are translated, simliar to the recent CURRENCY bug.
16:35:25 <fell> Was that intended or should I file a bug report?
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17:55:08 <gjanssens> fell: I never looked at the account import/export. I would have thought the headers are ignored.
17:55:15 <gjanssens> Apparently not
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18:03:16 <chf> The exporter is stuoit, by the way.
18:03:21 <chf> stupid
18:05:04 <chf> 1) The online banking functions routinely suggest ";" as a delimiter inside the transaction texts.
18:06:29 <chf> 2) If you export that with LANG=de set, the exporter suggests "," as the field delimiter, which is already the decimal "point".
18:07:16 <chf> 3) If you change that to ";" the fields set by accepting 1) will break.
18:07:48 <chf> So german language users are very likely to get "broken" CSV files by default.
18:09:59 <chf> The exporter will NOT exchange characters inside the data fields to anything other than the chosen field delimiter, and it will NOT warn the user.
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23:48:17 <fell> Hm, my merge in gnucash-docs looks different than usual.
23:55:41 <fell> jralls, are you around?