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12:31:26 <jralls> gjanssens: Re WebKit: The relevant changes are in gnc-wwebkit-view.c, so some interpretation is required. Probably easiest for me to just pull your branch, make the changes, and make a PR to you.
12:34:16 <jralls> gjanssens: I don't think we need to worry about Gwen. IIUC it runs its setup in a separate process. You might recall that some years ago it was a Qt window. Cstim and Martin worked out a gtk2 version so that we could lose the Qt dependency.
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12:55:42 <gjanssens> jralls: ok
12:56:00 <jralls> Mind if I defer it till after the release?
12:56:16 <gjanssens> jralls: and we'll know soon enough whether gwen needs tweaking
12:56:21 <gjanssens> jralls: no problem
12:56:36 <gjanssens> I can continue still with the deprecated warnings
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12:58:25 <gjanssens> jralls: I presume you saw the PR with the updated Finnish translation and will incorporate it in the release ?
12:59:51 <jralls> Yes. I hope that goodvibes can get his doc patches fixed up in time too.
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13:47:45 <gjanssens> jralls: I've added a comment on the Finnish translation PR already.
13:48:51 <gjanssens> I have read a while back a study showed it's critically important to reply very fast to work done by new contributors or the chance they'd continue to contribute drops dramatically
13:49:17 <gjanssens> I'm trying to pay more attention to this, though according to the article I'm still too late
13:49:46 <jralls> OK. I see the comment... but the release isn't scheduled until the 26th. This weekend is only the 19th.
13:49:48 <gjanssens> The first reaction should supposedly be within 48 hours
13:50:07 <gjanssens> Doh :( You're right
13:50:29 <jralls> Hmm. I wonder if we can set up an auto-responder.
13:51:51 <gjanssens> IIUC it should be a direct personalized reaction.
13:52:08 <gjanssens> Silly I can't find the article any more. I believe it was a google study.
13:53:01 <jralls> As for the branch, it doesn't matter. There are no differences in fi.po between master and maint. That's generally true for translations since we're not generating gnucash.pot on master.
13:56:03 <jralls> IOW, one need only fetch and cherry-pick. Rebasing unless done with care will make a mess because it will attempt to apply all of the master commits onto maint..
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14:58:08 <gjanssens> jralls: right. So next time I'll limit my comment to suggesting *future* work should be don' on maint rather than master
14:58:38 <gjanssens> done*
15:00:10 <gjanssens> fell: considering I'm usually 'too fast', what's your opinion on PR #134 ? Is it good to go or do you need more details from the author ?
15:00:12 <gjanssens> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/134
15:01:14 <fell> :-)
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15:02:44 <jralls> I'm not sure that it's right. ASCII Rs is an acceptable substitute but the correct symbol is apparently U+20B9.
15:03:13 <jralls> We use that elswhere so I don't see why we shouldn't for MUR.
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15:06:32 <gjanssens> Thanks jralls. That's why I prefer to delegate currency related PR's :)
15:07:27 <fell> from fr.wikipedia I would use ₨
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15:13:18 <jralls> Which is U+20A8, and the obsolete one for INR. Also correct according to https://gist.github.com/bzerangue/5484121. Dunno if it's authoritative.
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15:15:10 <jralls> Ah, here's a better source: http://www.xe.com/symbols.php. Also agrees that U+20A8 is correct.
15:15:36 <fell> en.wikipedia has it, too referencing Bank of Mauritius in 2011
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15:17:22 <frakturfreak> jralls: fell You know that there’s a new Rupee sign
15:17:22 <gncbot> frakturfreak: Sent 21 hours and 47 minutes ago: <fell> Manche Leute möchten die Nummer ihrer Fehlversuche recyclen, um keine Lücken in ihren Re.-Nummern zu haben.
15:17:44 <frakturfreak> fell: Thanks for the answer
15:17:50 <fell> currently I can not reach http://bom.intnet.mu/
15:18:45 <frakturfreak> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/20b9/index.htm
15:19:11 <jralls> frakturefreak: For the INR; according to xe.com it doesn't yet have a codepoint assigned, so that doesn't do us much good.
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15:21:08 <jralls> Except that they seem to be out of date, because we have it in iso-4217-currencies.xml: ₹
15:21:52 <jralls> Ah, that is U+20B(, as I said earlier.
15:22:03 <jralls> Oops, U+20B9.
15:22:26 <fell> Most of the symols I copied from wikipedia
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15:25:40 <fell> The official page is https://www.currency-iso.org/en/home/amendments/secretariat.html
15:25:59 <jralls> I see another page dated 2010 that the new INR symbol was assigned that code point, so it would seem that xe.com is out of date too. Wikipedia is up to date for INR. The English Wikipedia page was updated last September so I hope the symbol is up to date.
15:26:54 <frakturfreak> jralls: That with 2010 was also stated on the link I’ve posted
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15:27:20 <fell> IIRC there was a bug report replacing the Rs ligatur
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15:31:00 <fell> BTW the official ISO list does not contain the local symbol
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15:34:18 <jralls> fell: Do you mean https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711317?
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15:36:59 <fell> No, that was the follow up about dispay issues under windows.
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15:39:07 <fell> Oops, update in comment 9
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15:44:48 <jralls> Right, that was the change frakturfreak referred to.
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16:46:18 <gjanssens> jralls, fell, frakturfreak: the conversation got sidetracked to INR. About MUR now, is the final conclusion the symbol should be U+20A8 ?
16:46:51 <jralls> AFAICT that's the current symbol for MUR.
16:46:51 <fell> I must only rebase, to commit it.
16:50:14 <gjanssens> Ok thanks.
16:50:15 <jralls> fell: PR 134 wants to change it from ASCII R to ASCII Rs. We should reject that and set it to U+20A8.
16:51:32 <fell> I name it improved PR 134 ;-)
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16:59:12 <jralls> While we're at it, PKR and SCR should be changed too. xe.com says both use U+20A8, though https://www.facebook.com/Pakistani-Currency-Symbol-177733865613019/ has a different symbol for PKR.
17:00:49 <jralls> Oh, forget the Facebook page. It's a petition to change the symbol, not a declaration.
17:01:44 <fell> Yes, urdu is hindi in farsi script
17:05:15 <jralls> fell: True, but I don't know what that has to do with the currency symbol. The proposal was for an 'R' with two crosses through the right leg.
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17:16:10 <fell> facebook: We at the Social Behavior Development Organization, speaking on behalf of concerned citizens of Pakistan, are requesting the creation of a monetary symbol which defines the identity of the Pakistani Rupee.
17:16:39 <fell> It is nothing official
17:20:25 <fell> So I copy the symbol from xe.com
17:22:42 <frakturfreak> hmpf, people trying do tinker with vat accounts, without knowing, good that he asked.
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17:29:29 <fell> Yes, many tax related questions currently on gnucash-de.
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17:53:11 <fell> jralls, I am not shurem we should change them.
17:54:13 <jralls> fell: I suppose you mean PKR and SYR. Why not?
17:54:18 <fell> For me wikipedia is a more reliable source and they use SR in several languages for SCR
17:54:35 <jralls> (BTW, "sure" has no 'h')
17:54:51 <fell> OK
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17:56:07 <fell> It is a bit late for me todey
17:56:38 <fell> today
17:57:09 <jralls> OK, no rush on the currency symbols. We can talk about it more tomorrow.
17:58:17 <gjanssens> Wow, travis is acting up again :(
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17:58:54 <jralls> gjanssens: Acting up how?
17:59:08 <gjanssens> Pushed a jqplot fix by Robert Fewell earlier this evening and travis managed to break a Split test to abort with an overflow error...
17:59:11 <gjanssens> https://travis-ci.org/Gnucash/gnucash/builds/211899353
17:59:26 <gjanssens> I'm pretty sure this is totally unrelated to Bob's patch
18:01:28 <jralls> It's not. It's the DST problem I mentioned in my reply to Stephen Brown on gnucash-devel yesterday. There's a problem with setting the start of DST which is causing it to be not DST in GncDateTime even though DST started last Sunday here.
18:01:59 <gjanssens> The Finnish translation PR is also causing a failed travis run, that one due to a core-dump in test-engine (in addition to the familiar test-import-map)
18:03:01 <gjanssens> Ah right, I got distracted by the critical warnings
18:03:13 <gjanssens> The error is in the line below
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18:19:00 <gjanssens> Hmm, just pushed what I thought should fix the issue with travis and glib 2.46 being too new
18:19:44 <gjanssens> But now it bails on another issue. https://travis-ci.org/Gnucash/gnucash
18:19:48 <gjanssens> I'll investigate tomorrow. It's getting late here.
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18:36:00 <fell> For me, it is bedtime, too.
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