2017-03-09 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:46:13 <gjanssens> .
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11:34:27 <ajm> Hi, I'm suddenly having problems printing invoices from GnuCash (2.6.15) - on some of them the right hand side of the invoice is being cropped off completely
11:35:42 <ajm> from about half way along the "Description" box, so no values are shown. It doesn't do this with every invoice, and they all look fine within GnuCash itself, but a print preview shows the problem, as does exporting to PDF
11:36:05 <ajm> Any clues as to what might be amiss?
11:42:04 <warlord> That sounds weird.
11:42:18 <warlord> Worst cast, can you export the invoice in HTML, load it in Firefox, and print from there?
11:42:53 <ajm> Will give it a go just now
11:45:03 <ajm> Yes, that works pretty well as a temporary workaround - thank you very much
11:45:56 <ajm> Obviously it's a bit long winded for every invoice from now on though! Any idea how best to troubleshoot what's actually going wrong?
11:46:01 <warlord> ajm: please file a bug report.
11:46:15 <warlord> Not specifically.
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12:07:42 <ajm> I will file a bug report, after double checking that it also occurs using the bog standard invoice template (I have a very slightly modified version which just replaces the "thank you for your patronage" text with some payment details - shouldn't be causing this issue but who knows.)
12:16:51 <jralls> gjanssens: Do you know offhand which of the windows in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779792#c2 are GtkDialogs and which are GtkWindows?
12:18:50 <gjanssens> jralls: I was just reading your bug comments. I don't know offhand, but I can look it up for you :)
12:19:41 <jralls> gjanssens: If you already know where to look... Otherwise I can grep it out in a few minutes.
12:20:01 <gjanssens> That will be as fast as I could do it...
12:20:40 <gjanssens> jralls: fyi, most windows/dialogs in the business code don't have a transient set
12:21:42 <gjanssens> I started fixing this some time ago, but it meant quite a number of functions needed an additional parameter so I deferred it to some time in the future
12:21:58 <jralls> Heh. Most dialogs in GnuCash as a whole don't have a transient set. It's generally only a problem on Macs because Apple's window stacking is really weird.
12:23:04 <gjanssens> Well, it may be less common but it does also give intermittent issues on linux. If not I wouldn't have started the attempt to fix it :)
12:23:13 <jralls> You shouldn't need to pass a parameter around. Every GtkWidget knows what its toplevel is, ask with gtk_widget_get_toplevel().
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12:23:33 <gjanssens> But it's been a while, so memory is vague
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12:24:07 <gjanssens> gtk_widget_get_toplevel -> neat trick
12:24:19 * gjanssens will try to remember next time he picks this up...
12:25:00 <gjanssens> jralls: also fyi I'm making progress slowly on the gnome_canvas stuff
12:25:30 <gjanssens> The offset issue I mentioned a few days back is solved
12:25:58 <jralls> Very good.
12:26:04 <gjanssens> But I've been banging my head against the wall for a couple of days for widgets that didn't get drawn.
12:26:10 <gjanssens> Only today I figured it out
12:26:27 <gjanssens> Those were widgets that don't have their own gdkwindow
12:26:53 <gjanssens> And on a gtklayout they disappeared behind another widget that did have its own gdkwindow
12:27:14 <gjanssens> So that's sorted also
12:27:33 <gjanssens> It's beginning to look like a register rewrite after all :(
12:28:33 <gjanssens> There are several subtle behavioral differences between a gnome_canvas with its items and doing it directly in gtk (with gtklayout as base widget)
12:29:23 <gjanssens> And I continue to think the old design sucks big time to 2017 standards
12:29:47 <gjanssens> Which is to be expected of course for code about 20 years old.
12:30:17 <gjanssens> <end of ramble>
12:31:33 <gjanssens> Anyway, last thing to complete to have the same behavior as the old design is to properly handle mouse clicks. That should be easy.
12:31:34 <jralls> LOL! I don't know that the code being 20 years old is a good excuse. Fowler's "Refactoring" was published in 2001.
12:32:01 <gjanssens> Clearly nobody did for this piece of code!
12:32:03 <jralls> If that's all it sounds well short of a rewrite.
12:32:51 <gjanssens> :D Yes that was exagerated by my frustration
12:33:55 <jralls> I'm not arguing that our code base isn't poorly designed. I'm pretty sure I've been beating the Fowler drum since I joined the project 8 years ago.
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12:35:01 * gjanssens should read Fower's "Refactoring" one day...
12:35:12 <gjanssens> Is it a book? An article on the web ?
12:35:13 <warlord> The register design was nice for late-1990's tech
12:35:26 <jralls> OK, I'm relieved. It's sometimes hard to recognize overtones like that in a text-only channel, particularly one as terse as IRC.
12:36:13 <warlord> I feel people in the 2000s felt "it worked.. *I* don't want to touch it" --- and so they didnt
12:37:01 <jralls> warlord: The result was, and is, nice. The implementation that got us there is historically interesting but wouldn't have been considered good coding practice in 1990. Yes, I have that sentiment even now. It works, it's a bitch to figure out how, and it's darned easy to break.
12:37:27 <jralls> gjanssens: ISBN 0-201-48567-2
12:38:12 <jralls> warlord: Oh, the 1990 reference is because that's about when I last had a CS course.
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12:38:31 <warlord> LOL
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12:40:13 <jralls> Anyway, the register is historically interesting because it's pretty clearly the precursor of GtkTreeView, or rather the gnumeric code from which it was lifted was.
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14:51:30 <jralls> warlord: The account request mails are still coming from webmaster@gnucash.org. Did you think that you'd changed that? If a random person emails bureaucrat@gnucash.org will it go through?
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15:14:02 <jonas> from my issue a few days ago when I couldn't get gnucash working with python3, turns out it works fine when compiled for python2.7 like said here
15:14:03 <jonas> thanks
15:14:25 <jonas> it's a bit depressing that arch doesn't have a working ready-made build for gnucash with the python bindinds :(
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16:08:54 <gjanssens> jonas: I'm glad you got it working.
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19:48:04 <hub> I just started 2.6.15 on machine with a HiDPI screen. and, it having problems...
19:48:12 <hub> like everything is too small
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