2017-02-24 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:22:22 <gjanssens> warlord: glad you found it
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03:49:12 <gjanssens> jralls: yes, the header triggers the resize in the two button events you describe
03:50:01 <gjanssens> However when these events fire, the column widths are exactly as set by the button events, which may still be less than the full window width
03:51:12 <gjanssens> Note I'm doing the conversion while still under gtk2 to limit the number of moving targets. In gtk2 the "draw" event is still called "expose_event"
03:51:25 <gjanssens> The principle is the same though
03:52:03 <gjanssens> For this conversion I've borrowed from the SX' dense_cal code
03:52:59 <gjanssens> Which means I redraw the register to an offline buffer on configure events or whenever the rest of the register code asks for a redraw
03:53:30 <gjanssens> Then on an expose_event I'm copying this offline buffer onto the widget's cairo_surface
03:54:14 <gjanssens> This avoids the expensive draw function when parts of the window get obscured and re-exposed.
03:55:03 <gjanssens> My internal redraw code however always triggers an expose event because it ends with a gtk_widget_queue_draw
03:59:08 <gjanssens> I suspect the sequence of events/function calls has changed subtly with my rewrite such that the autoresize of the description column only happens after my header redraw.
04:00:06 <gjanssens> I'll admit it's not clear to me yet where exactly this autoresize happens, so that's the next item to research
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06:59:28 <ziggy> Hi. Yesterday my connection timed out. What's the best way to import transactions from the Android app? I find the export using Quicken format cumbersome since it creates a lot of duplicate accounts.
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08:21:09 <fell> Hi ziggy! Usually the Baysian Algorithm remembers you previous decissions while importing, but not , what you do after the import.
08:24:19 <fell> So you should assign theright accounts while you are importing to give him a chance to learn
08:25:25 <fell> Probably you should also adjust the account hierarchy in the app to that on your deskdop.
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09:33:42 <warlord> gjanssens, any chance you could run another test for me, that wget but with -6 instead of -4 (I presume you have IPv6?)
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10:21:47 <fell> Warlord: Connecting to code.gnucash.org (code.gnucash.org)|2001:470:e448:ca54::c0de|:443... failed: Network is unreachable.
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10:23:51 <fell> But it might be on my side ...
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10:32:48 <warlord> Hmm
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10:32:59 <warlord> fell: can you run: mtr -6 code.gnucash.org ?
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10:35:53 * fell enabled ipv6 on his router ...
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10:39:05 <warlord> Ah. Fun.
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10:46:37 * fell wich check, if mom's provider does support it?
10:51:47 <fell> The contract seems to be too old. I will dig a tunnel now.
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10:59:55 <fell> 75,99M 458KB/s in 3m 12s
11:00:12 <fell> much slower than ipv4
11:00:27 <fell> warlord?
11:01:16 <warlord> I am, unfortunately, not too surprised.
11:01:30 <warlord> Looks like AT&T <-> HE has a bad link.
11:03:28 <warlord> ... which is odd.. the connection is local to Atlanta, and then traverses a 100G link to my tunnel endpoint. So I dont understand why I'm seeing such a low latency through there.
11:03:28 <fell> I don't know, how much overhead the tunnel has.
11:03:34 <warlord> Shouldn't have much.
11:04:19 <warlord> And in fact my v4 tunnel crosses over the same interconnect!
11:05:46 <fell> 100ge6-1.core1.lon2.he.net has over 10% loss
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11:06:26 <fell> sinking
11:06:50 <fell> Now a 4% peak at tserv2.ash1.he.net
11:06:51 <warlord> In fact, it looks like the route to the v4 tunnel endpoint crosses *exactly* the same route to my v6 tunnel endpoint and beyond! So clearly the v6 issue is beyond that.
11:07:52 <warlord> So it's either tserv2.ash1.he.net, or somewhere else, that's the issue.. Because every hop on *this* side of that is the same for v4 and v6 tunnels, so it's clearly on the other side of 100ge11-1.core1.ash1.he.net
11:08:53 <fell> london seems to be the culprit, stupit brexit people ;.)
11:09:49 <fell> Their secret service might be too slow
11:11:42 <warlord> Hahah...
11:13:07 <fell> in ipv4 the loss is frankfurt, where NSA has some influence.
11:14:33 <warlord> Haha.. Clearly they don't like accounting programs ;)
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11:22:04 <warlord> Okay, I was able to test it from my end with a 16mbps transfer and see it in my monitor. So yay. Monitor is working now.
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11:43:49 <jralls> gjanssens: Did you respond offline to Ahmed's money-laundering attempt yesterday?
11:45:52 <warlord> Hahaha
11:51:03 <jralls> Warlord: I don't think it's funny. If I understood his email correctly he made a "donation" to the Euro tip jar and asked Geert to transfer the money to a bank in Morrocco.
11:52:17 <warlord> Oh, I think it's funny he asked!
12:12:21 <gjanssens> jralls: no I haven't answered yet
12:12:35 <gjanssens> I read his mail the same as you did
12:15:07 <gjanssens> I hadn't decided what to do about it yet
12:15:40 * gjanssens doesn't understand Ahmed
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12:16:24 <gjanssens> He's been "spamming" us for weeks about online access via gnucash
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12:16:30 <gjanssens> Both on the list and on uservoice
12:17:01 <gjanssens> I have closed some of his requests and so has jralls
12:17:23 <gjanssens> And now suddenly he wants money back ?!?
12:17:32 <gjanssens> Weird stuff
12:19:22 <warlord> He also spammed the admin address too.
12:19:35 <warlord> I'm not sure if it's a language barrier or something else.
12:19:43 <jralls> No, he wants to use you as a conduit for money transfers between his bank in Argentina and some other bank in Morocco and doesn't want to simply go to the Argentine bank and have them transfer the money... which implies to me that he doesn't want the transfer to be traceable to him.
12:21:16 <gjanssens> Heh, *that* part you did misunderstand :)
12:21:32 <jralls> Oh?
12:21:36 <gjanssens> "Argenta" is the name of the bank in Belgium in which I have opened a GnuCash account
12:21:47 <gjanssens> So he wants me to refund his "donation"
12:22:03 <gjanssens> I don't know what policy we have in that respect
12:22:27 <gjanssens> And I wouldn't even consider it unless I do find his donation on the account
12:22:36 * gjanssens hasn't had time to verify that yet
12:23:18 <jralls> Ah. I also misremembered where he wants it sent: Algeria rather than Morocco.
12:23:46 <gjanssens> He's even opened a uservoice feature request for this now
12:26:25 <gjanssens> Ok I just checked, until now I haven't received any donation from Ahmed in Algeria
12:26:52 <gjanssens> Typically such transfers take time, so I'll check again in a few days.
12:28:05 <gjanssens> I don't understand his other part of the message "but the bank dont support internet transfert"
12:28:20 <gjanssens> Was he expecting he could recover the money himself ?
12:28:30 <gjanssens> Or is he referring to gnucash not supporting internet transfers ?
12:28:46 <gjanssens> I'll start with asking for clarifications...
12:29:46 <jralls> He means that the bank in Algeria doesn't support internet transfers, only interbank ones--if that. A lot of countries have pretty tight controls over their banking systems.
12:31:14 <jralls> He's probably not in Algeria, and he's trying to get money from somewhere--perhaps France or Belgium, I understand both have large Algerian expat populations--into the country.
12:33:23 <jralls> Since GnuCash can't do that, he's apparently hoping that you'll do it for him.
12:33:29 <gjanssens> Well, as a policy I think we should only refund money to the bank account where it came from...
12:33:46 <gjanssens> *if* we decide to agree on a refund
12:34:59 <warlord> I agree, if we refund a donation it should be returned to where it came from.
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12:40:58 <gjanssens> warlord has entered the channel... :)
12:41:14 <warlord> WEIRD.
12:41:37 <gjanssens> how's that ?
12:42:09 <gjanssens> gncbot first appeared as gncbot` and then you and gncbot disappeared
12:43:07 <gjanssens> how does one rename gncbot again ?
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12:51:13 <warlord> @nick gncbot
12:51:13 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
12:51:22 <warlord> @nick
12:51:22 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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13:09:45 <gjanssens> there, that did it...
13:15:23 <warlord> yep.
13:23:27 <jralls> fell: Do you know where the Bundesbank's BLZ directory went? The URL in ktoblzcheck 404s.
13:23:42 <jralls> fell: Ref https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779185
13:24:21 <fell> Puh, I will see ...
13:24:48 <fell> I hope they didn't drop it in favour of IBAN
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13:32:12 <jralls> fell: On the same bug, do you know where AQB gets the URLs? It doesn't seem to be from ktoblzcheck.
13:34:34 <fell> Which url? sparkasse, zka or which one?
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13:47:07 <fell> jralls: BTW, which aqbanking are you bundling?
13:47:57 <fell> 2016-07-15 Martin released 5.6.11
13:51:07 <jralls> Windows is getting 5.6.10, Mac 5.5.0.2. 5.6.11 doesn't show up on his downloads page, only hia 5.7.X betas do. What's the URL to 5.6.11 and did he mark it "beta"?
13:52:38 <jralls> As for which URK, the one that goes into the "Server URL" edit on the dialog. Ktoblezcheck has the BLZ number and bank name but no URLs.
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14:05:02 <fell> jralls, see https://www.aquamaniac.de/sites/download/packages.php?package=03&showall=1
14:05:28 <fell> there is also a .12 4 days later
14:06:45 <jralls> Yeah, suggesting he messed something up in 5.6.11. I'll update the builds, thanks.
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15:38:11 <fell> jralls: I found /usr/share/aqbanking/bankinfo/de/banks.data
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15:42:33 <jralls> fell: Interesting. It has URLs, including the offending one for 590501010. Now where does it get it?
15:43:51 <fell> I am now searching in /aqbanking/src/plugins/bankinfo/de/de.c
15:44:52 <fell> That seems to use ktoblz
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15:46:35 <jralls> AFAICT ktoblz knows the BLZ and bank name but nothing else.
15:50:03 <fell> I will check it
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15:52:01 <fell> http://ktoblzcheck.sourceforge.net/ says, it has also IbanCheck
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15:56:54 <jralls> banks.data is built by aqbanking/src/plugins/bankinfo/generic/mkdeinfo.c.
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16:07:40 <jralls> Nope. Not made. Martin packages it in a tarball aqbanking/src/plugins/bankinfo/generic/de.tar.bz2.
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16:13:26 <jralls> The compression defeated grep. And Martin hasn't updated that tarball since May 25 2015. (I just cloned his git repo.)
16:15:43 <fell> To get the recent version for 1 bank, I use https://www.hbci-zka.de/institute/institut_auswahl.htm
16:16:26 <fell> https://www.hbci-zka.de/institute/fints_institute_history.pdf has the history of changes
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16:17:36 <fell> As dev you can get a recent list via https://www.hbci-zka.de/institute/institut_hersteller.htm
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16:21:13 <fell> https://www.bundesbank.de/Redaktion/DE/Downloads/Bundesbank/Aufgaben_und_Organisation/verzeichnis_der_kreditinstitute_und_ihrer_verbaende.pdf?__blob=publicationFile has no urls
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16:36:07 <jralls> src/plugins/bankinfo/generic/README lists a collection of files to download from various places to place in the (nonexistant) folder "data". Three of them 404 and for FinTS it just says "See the FinTS homepage".
16:36:48 <jralls> I'd need more information (and more motivation) to track down the right data before I could regenerate those files for him.
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