2017-01-11 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:22:04 <Explorer05_> How do you move an item from one expense category to another? (entered into wrong category)?
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06:55:48 <gjanssens> .
06:55:48 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 11 hours and 18 minutes ago: <jralls> I grepped all the exceptions in boost::date_time. There are locally derived ones from std::out_of_range and std::logic_error; they also throw out_of_range, ios_base::failure, invalid_argument, and runtime_error directly.
06:57:20 <gjanssens> jralls: ok. So we probably need some parsing and rethrowing...
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09:29:25 <warlord> .
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14:26:43 <Brent> Hi all. trying Gnucash. When I set up accounts, do I enter Liabilities as positive numbers or negative numbers?
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14:33:50 <warlord> Brent: depends how you have it configured.. You should go by the column headers.
14:38:05 <Brent> Ok, I see, so for Accounts Payable my opening balance is 6000, so I want to put that under the "bill" column, which makes it show up as a positive number
14:41:10 <warlord> No, never manually put anything into A/P
14:41:25 <warlord> For A/P you should generate the actual outstanding Vendor Bills
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15:16:09 <Brent> My accountant sent me a sheet that shows AP has an opening balance, so that is what I needed to put in there
15:18:06 <warlord> Brent: here's the issue -- if you manually enter the amount into A/P then there is no way to "pay" it off, because it's not tied to any customer(s) and therefore cannot be "paid".
15:18:34 <warlord> The only way to do what you're being told to do is doing what I'm telling you to do: enter invoice(s) for the outstanding (opening balance) amount.
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15:19:53 <Brent> So I need to ask the accountant who that money is owed to and then put those separate items in to total that amount?
15:20:28 <warlord> If you're using AP, yes.
15:20:51 <Brent> hmm, and I will also need to do that with the AR as well then
15:20:58 <warlord> Yes
15:21:02 <Brent> Any other sections that can't have opening balances?
15:22:13 <warlord> Nope, just the business features (AR and AP).
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15:56:35 <Brent> Ok, for my opening balances for taxes due, I put them into expenses. But is that right? I am now thinking I should enter those into AP liabilities under taxes, and then make them an expense when I actually pay them. Thoughts?
15:59:57 <warlord> taxes due would be a liability. I wouldn't use AP
16:02:20 <Brent> So I put them in as a liability and then an expense when they are actually paid?
16:04:12 <warlord> i think you should ask your accountant that question ;)
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16:40:10 <Brent> Is there a way to set up expenses I import from my credit card statement to automatically go to the proper expense category, or do I have to do each one manually?
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16:52:05 <warlord> turn on bayesian matching.
16:52:46 <warlord> then import small batches and train the importer.
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17:14:45 <Brent> ok, I imported all of my bank and credit card statements. I went through the credit card statements and every time I made a payment, under transfer I told it to take the money from the asset:business bank account
17:15:37 <Brent> now under the business bank account all of the payments are there twice, once from the imported statement and once from me telling the related expense to draw from this account.
17:15:54 <Brent> How do I tell Gnucash those are the same transactions?
17:18:28 <Brent> Reconcile?
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19:05:36 <cira> hello all.
19:06:16 <cira> I've been exploring 2.6.15 and the sqlite back end.
19:07:09 <cira> Mostly it works correctly, but the powerpc version throws an error on start, and some of the data is not read correctly.
19:08:06 <cira> The OSX powerpc version says: This database is from an older version of GnuCash..." even if it created the sqlite file.
19:08:34 <cira> Other architectures seem to work correctly.
19:10:15 <cira> Data which is lost includes some metadata regarding accounts: the Notes field, assigned colors, & display information at least.
19:11:19 <cira> Has anyone noticed this? Is it worthy of a bug submission?
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19:44:03 <warlord> Didn't even realize Apple had made PPC macs for decades!
19:49:13 <cira> *snicker* , they haven't. But that doesn't stop those systems from being serviceable. I very much appreciate that we are still producing ppc builds of gnucash.
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20:24:57 <warlord> Honestly, I dont know why there would be a specific problem ... other than very old system libraries.
20:35:52 <cira> Isn't sqlite too new for OSX 10.6? -- nope, /usr/bin/sqlite3 from 2009. The other architectures do have options for mysql & postgres, neither of which show up on the ppc build. So there are differences.
20:40:33 <warlord> Mac doesn't ship the mysql or PG dbd drivers.
20:40:47 <warlord> and gnucash-for-mac doesn't include them (although it does include sqlite)
20:43:01 <warlord> But jralls is the mac guru. the ppc build *shouldn't* behave differently
20:43:44 <warlord> Brent: no, during import you needed to have told it that it was a duplicate.
20:44:32 <warlord> heading out for a while..
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