2017-01-06 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:08:34 <warlord> fell: I never think about that only because on fedora I get 817 lines of response :)
09:09:45 <fell> and how about 'locale -a|grep de'?
09:16:22 <warlord> 32
09:23:51 <fell> I get only 14 and 4 false positive
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10:19:26 <cashbudget> A hopefully quick question that I can't seem to find in the docs or from searching... when creating/updating a budget why does the account total not reflect the sub-accounts? in other words if i update a sub-account entry in the budget the account total is not updated
10:19:48 <cashbudget> the totals only look at the account values and ignore sub-account
10:19:54 <cashbudget> thanks in advance for your insight!
10:53:58 <William> I don't think I am seeing what you are seeing.
10:55:13 <William> If I have accounts Food:Groceries and Food:Restaurants and set them both to 100, the budget for Food is 200.
10:56:28 <William> Oh, but if I manually set the Food budget to something else, that overrides the amount it got from summing the subaccounts.
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11:32:36 <cashbudget> William: yes sir that's what I see
11:33:13 <cashbudget> if you set Food:Groceries to 0 your Expenses total at the bottom is also not updated
11:34:09 <cashbudget> or set it to anything, the value is unimportant. it is just that sub-accounts are ignored it seems for both account totals and the grand totals
11:36:05 <William> I think you will have to rearrange your accounts so you don't have to set a budget amount on a parent account.
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12:46:56 <jralls_> http://www.xkcd.com/1782/
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12:47:46 <cashbudget> William: you mean move all sub-accounts up to accounts?
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12:53:14 <William> cashbudget: I mean if you have transactions in both the parent account and child account, create a new child account to hold the transactions of the parent account.
12:53:36 <William> Basically only put transactions in accounts that are not parent accounts.
12:54:48 <William> jralls: I'm ready to join the GnuCash Slack :)
12:55:53 <jralls> We'll have to ask Bob... ;-)
12:58:23 <cashbudget> William: okay thanks i'll have to consider that :)
13:00:35 <cashbudget> will that actually help though? it doesn't seem as though sub-accounts are tallied in the totals? or is that only because i also have entries in the parent?
13:02:04 <William> The budget entry in the parent is overriding the tallied child entries.
13:02:20 <William> If you delete the parent budget entry, you should get the total of child entries
13:10:38 <warlord> cashbudget: what william said. the budget assumes that either an account has values in it, or it will sum the subaccounts. It's an either/or.
13:11:43 <warlord> jralls: LOL
13:30:03 <cashbudget> William: ah ha okay thanks! i will give that a go
13:30:18 <cashbudget> warlord: thanks :)
13:36:52 <cashbudget> ok next newbie question: is there a way to bulk-move from one account to another?
13:57:26 <warlord> cashbudget: you can bulk move *ALL* transactions from one account to another .. just delete the account and gnucash will ask if and where to move them.
13:57:39 <warlord> There is no way to bulk transfer only some.
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14:17:36 <cashbudget> warlord: thanks!
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14:18:58 <cashbudget> presents a bit of a problem for the subaccounts in that i'd like to keep them where they are. suppose i can delete/move & then move back
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14:27:52 <cashbudget> well that was dumb of me :) i can just rename the account after the move, no need for second move of course
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14:35:23 <cashbudget> i think part of my mess is that i imported years' worth of data from msmoney. gnucash did a fine job with the "category:sub-category" to "account:sub-account" translation with the exception that the parent accounts weren't sub-totaling (even if the parent had zero transactions)
14:35:47 <cashbudget> but deleting & moving to a new account then renaming works like a charm. appreciate all the advice.
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14:53:12 <warlord> you're welcome
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18:03:19 <ArtGravity> Anyone know a good means of moving fractional expenses over to a customer from a bulk invoice?
18:04:14 <ArtGravity> e.g. email provider invoices for 1000 mailboxes and the cost needs to be tied back to 100 customers
18:05:16 <ArtGravity> I've used 2 different methods so far, and I'm curious as to whether there is a more efficient or proper method
18:05:53 <ArtGravity> method 1 is to take the vendor invoice and enter it as multiple invoices expensed back to the appropriate customer.
18:07:01 <ArtGravity> Method 2 (which I am starting to think is not a clever as I thought when I did it) is to record the entire invoice and then issue a credit note and follow up customer specific invoice.
18:07:18 <ArtGravity> That method is more work, and fills the ledger with pointless clutter
18:07:45 <ArtGravity> If there is an easier or better method than either, I'd prefer to improve my method.
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