2016-12-13 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:08:03 <warlord> NickName987923: No, the income/expense side of A/R and A/P must come from an invoice/bill. the Asset side (payment) can be attached later.
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15:30:30 <jwhitmore> Trying to build gnucash from source failing at the moment on various error_handler() functions. Updated my system today so I might have messed up my system.
15:31:56 <jwhitmore> google not throwing up anything so guess it's just me
15:34:12 <warlord> jwhitmore: what OS/Distro? What version of gnucash?
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15:57:35 <jwhitmore> warlord, Linux OpenSUSE Tumbleweed building latest from git https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git
15:58:50 <jwhitmore> Might checkout 2.6.14 and retry
16:01:05 <warlord> jwhitmore: Are you building to develop or to use?
16:02:48 <warlord> (I'd recommend maint branch for usablity)
16:12:04 <jwhitmore> warlord, cheers checked out maint. Building to use but want to look at code with a view to developing.
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16:18:22 <jwhitmore> cheers maint built for me
16:18:45 <warlord> master is under active development.
16:18:59 <warlord> maint is 2.6 branch. it should "always work"
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16:41:43 <myE> Hello there. I'm somewhat new to IRC. Is someone actually reading here? I know i dont have to ask to ask. Something I've already expiernced quite a time ago. :) I have installed GnuCash now. And i'm really impressed - i really like it. Im actually thinking this a good solution for my company too. But to test it i would need some example data to play a little bit around. Is there something predefined? After searching in the wiki of GnuCash I could
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16:49:41 <warlord> myE: sorry, it ended at "wiki of GnuCash I could"
16:49:57 <warlord> But no, there is no database of "sample data files".
16:50:17 <warlord> There are a few *test* data files in the source tree, but nothing that's large enough to really provide a full sample.
16:50:18 <myE> After searching in the wiki of GnuCash I couldn't find something. - was the last line
16:50:40 <warlord> Your best bet, honestly, is File -> New File, then select all the accounts, and then just start playing with it.
16:56:39 <myE> Okay thanks. That is what i'm already working with. I'll try to import my company database. This should be fun to set all things up - yaaaay :)
16:57:33 <warlord> Start small..
16:57:36 <warlord> Import a month.
16:57:39 <warlord> Or even a week
16:57:51 <warlord> (sorry, gotta run)
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18:33:33 <NickName987923> Can I code a vendor to an expense when recording it (other than recording a bill) like I can in QuickBooks's "Batch Transaction" window? Here's a pic for example: http://s3.aws.blueriver.com/it/intuit/assets/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Batch5.png
18:36:21 <NickName987923> I do this when I record stuff on the debit card or paying cash (when nothing hits AP or AR).
18:39:20 <jralls_> NickName987923: I don't think so, but I don't use the business features. gjannsens and warlord are better versed in how to use them than I.
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18:40:11 <NickName987923> Okay, thank you. I will wait for them I guess.
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18:51:10 <NickName987923> Really it's just for personal use, not business. But I like to track where I'm spending my money. For now I'm just putting the store in the Description.
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19:10:13 <jralls> NickName987923: Unless you want to do accrual accounting for your personal book you probably want to avoid the business features... meaning no bills or invoices.
19:11:28 <NickName987923> Yea, I never accrue.
19:11:50 <jralls> I tend to think of the description field as "payee", so the vendor goes there. On the rare occasion I want to put in more info I use the memo field on the appropriate split.
19:11:54 <NickName987923> Just cash and one rental deposit.
19:12:45 <jralls> There's also the Notes field, but you have to go to two-line view for that and unless you use it a lot that doesn't really make sense.
19:13:25 <NickName987923> Right, "payee" is a better term. Pretty simple putting it there. Really great package that is GnuCash. Reminds me of Principles of Accounting.
19:13:57 <NickName987923> Oh, nice. I'll put the payee in the description, then any unusual stuff in the notes field.
19:17:10 <NickName987923> I was getting sick of QuickBooks always messing up around this time of the year, forcing me to upgrade. Then their license activation is such a hassle.
19:17:46 <NickName987923> Once I get a new PC I'm going to switch to Gentoo or Arch.
19:18:03 <NickName987923> Then dual boot Windows for gaming.
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20:01:26 <warlord> NickName987923: I answered you hours ago
20:01:44 <warlord> at 9:08am this morning, I wrote: <warlord> NickName987923: No, the income/expense side of A/R and A/P must come from an invoice/bill. the Asset side (payment) can be attached later.
20:02:06 <NickName987923> Thank you!
20:02:12 <NickName987923> Missed it.
20:02:39 <warlord> no worries.
20:03:21 <NickName987923> So there's no way to allocate a vendor to an expense that is not A/P? I.e., when I pay cash for stuff.
20:04:03 <warlord> No. The only way to allocate a vendor to an expense is by posting a bill.
20:04:28 <NickName987923> Okay, thank you Sir. Much appreciated.
20:04:38 <warlord> Your best bet is to do what jralls said -- just put the vendor name in the description of your normal transaction and ignore the A/P Biz features.
20:04:56 <warlord> There's no reason to use the biz features if you don't need A/P
20:05:00 <NickName987923> I really don't need that function. I would always do that in QuickBooks, but have never run any sort of vendor report.
20:05:03 <warlord> Which... if you're paying cash... you don't
20:05:29 <warlord> GnuCash doesn't have that feature.
20:05:41 <NickName987923> Yea, it's a great idea. And basically how they teach it in school.
20:06:14 <NickName987923> Thanks
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20:08:57 <NickName987923> You guys are great help, wonderful software
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20:22:44 <jralls> warlord: I pushed some commits on docs, including a fix for the error in guide/it. Can you do a test build to see if it works OK?
20:23:16 <jralls> I'm getting an error from the guide/pt PDF build but it appears not to be fatal.
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