2016-02-25 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:07:25 <warlord> fell, I created a basic ToS page: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Requestaccount-page
10:07:29 <warlord> Feel free to edit it more.
10:14:06 <fell> Warlord: How about before the spam paragraph an invitation paragraph? Share your knowledge about GC with other users?
10:16:24 <fell> And I don't know the US law. Do we need any disclaimers?
10:17:00 <warlord> Sure. I also think we should change the "request account" page text to let people know that they are signing up for the wiki and not, say, some "gnucash service"
10:17:31 <warlord> I *think* that would be: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Requestaccount-text&action=edit&redlink=1
10:17:46 <warlord> fell: I dont know what kind of disclaimer(s) we might need
10:18:22 <fell> Perhaps everythingyou write is released under FDL 1.2 (see link in footer).
10:20:43 <warlord> Sure. Go for it.
10:21:40 <fell> I am currently reviewing the git page for sunfish.
10:22:09 <warlord> okay.
10:22:44 <warlord> I'm having a conversation with 'ILN technologies inc"
10:23:04 <fell> And I think, it is better, if a native speaker with a feeling of the legal requirements writes the page.
10:23:21 <warlord> I have no idea what the legal requirements are.
10:23:21 <fell> I saw your delay
10:25:04 <warlord> Yeah, he responded via email. (I didn't actually realize that my text input would get mailed to him)
10:25:04 <fell> E.g. here in DE you need a link to the Impressum with contact data,...
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10:27:10 <fell> Then things like "I will not upload copyright protected material"
10:27:24 <warlord> What is "the Impressum"?
10:28:46 <fell> The page/section who is the owner and who the admin with their contact data.
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10:31:56 <fell> "use friendly speech, no racism, sexism ..."
10:32:47 <warlord> sounds good :)
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10:45:09 <warlord> W.r.t. ILN... He says his name is "Marc Torres" but the email address says "josh osborn"
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10:49:20 <fell> So, let us make clrar, the wiki is for persons, not companies.
10:49:26 <fell> clear
10:51:14 <warlord> That should also probably happen in the "Requestaccount-text" page
10:52:17 <fell> Yep
10:57:30 <fell> I am shure, ILN will support us with the long desired F16 jet. ;-)
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11:01:33 <warlord> Yeah...
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11:39:29 <fell> Warlord: a formal argument if he claims that user name at least the mail address contain @ilntech.com
11:40:07 <fell> Btw it is on Osborne Street
11:44:16 <warlord> does it? he used a gmail account in the account request
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12:31:24 <fell> yes, warlord
12:31:36 <warlord> Hmm, where do you see this email address?
12:31:44 <fell> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ConfirmAccounts/authors&wpShowHeld=1
12:31:45 <fell> Row 3
12:31:53 <fell> The other on their website
12:35:30 <Mechtilde> what happens with the wiki
12:35:37 <fell> Probleme?
12:35:47 <warlord> Mechtilde: what do you mean?
12:35:57 <Mechtilde> it doesn't work for me
12:36:06 <Mechtilde> wiki.gnucash.org/
12:36:07 <fell> Which part?
12:36:09 <fell> login, edit, ---?
12:36:28 <Mechtilde> efore login
12:36:31 <Mechtilde> I can't access
12:36:45 <warlord> It may be a little slow right now; the vm server is being hit by a huge disk-i/o task.
12:36:53 <Mechtilde> that seems to be the reason
12:36:57 <Mechtilde> yes it is very very slow
12:37:02 <warlord> it is slow, but it WILL respond if you let it..
12:37:09 <warlord> fell: row3 on that has a gmail.com address
12:37:20 <fell> and the ilntech website has ilntech.com
12:38:30 <warlord> Sure, but there is nothing in the wiki request (other than the username) that maps to ilntech.com
12:40:20 <fell> If he wants to speak in the name of ilntech, the request should come from one of their mail addresses.
12:40:32 <warlord> I agree.
12:41:39 <fell> So we have a formal argument to deny this request.
12:42:30 <warlord> Sure. You are welcome to go deny it :)
12:42:50 <warlord> (also the fact that the name in the request != the name in the email address used)
12:43:03 <fell> You should suggest him to use his personal name or some nick to avoid legal problems.
12:45:38 <fell> I am no US lawyer and you had already this nice correspondence with him. ;-)
12:51:12 <warlord> I still think it would be better coming from another mod ;)
12:55:46 <fell> Would you like to forward me your correspondence?
12:58:51 <warlord> fell: done
13:04:59 <fell> Thx
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13:24:47 <fell> warlord, I have the impression, he thinks, he must create an account to *use Gnucash*.
13:25:13 <warlord> fell: Yes, I got that impression too, which is why I was suggesting changes to the text at the top of the "register for account" page on the wiki.
13:25:51 <fell> And probably on the wiki main page.
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13:28:35 <warlord> sure
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15:29:14 <fell> (back from my visitors)
15:33:40 <fell> warlord, I am waiting since a few minutes for reloading wiki: RecentChanges
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15:36:45 <warlord> vm server is still doing heavy disk-i/o
15:36:49 <warlord> (one of these years I should upgrade the VM host, and consider using SSDs)
15:36:53 <warlord> one of my VM guests has been down for 4 hours..
15:36:54 <warlord> (not code)
15:37:47 <fell> I am waiting now 10'. I think, I will try it tomorrow again.
15:39:43 <warlord> try now?
15:40:02 <warlord> the heavy disk-io process is done (for now)
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16:51:31 <jralls> warlord: Re your response to GnuGuest wrt qofinstance and qofobject yesterday: They're actually disjoint, qofobject is a vtable that qofquery uses, qofinstance is a superclass that provides KVP, the edit/commit interface, a QofBook*, and a couple of other minor things. QofBook has a QofSession* that connects to the QofBackend superclass that handles persistence.
16:56:33 <jralls> I'm undecided what to do about QofQuery. In a C++ backend all of the hand-rolled almost OO like qofobject should be replaced by C++ inheritance. But IIUC QofQuery depends on having everything queryable in memory, it has no way of querying the backend, and it works by iterating over the GHashTables in QofCollection and applying its predicates to each to build a result set.
17:04:38 <jralls> One option would be to gut it and use it as a front end to SQL. The other would be to drop it and just use SQL. What do you think and am I missing something?
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