2016-02-23 GnuCash IRC logs
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13:44:57 <jralls> codesmythe: How hard would it be to have the cmake build put the shared libraries in a top directory like the test programs are (in bin) to simplify linking and dlopening?
13:46:00 <jralls> Oh, never mind, they already are.
14:02:58 <codesmythe> jralls: Yep, by default, the cmake build makes the build directory layout look like an install layout.
14:03:30 <codesmythe> There is an option to have the build dir layout look like the source directory, like autotools does, but I am thinking of removing that.
14:04:39 <jralls> As long as checks pass without that option (and AFAICT they do) there doesn't seem to be a good reason to keep it.
14:11:46 <codesmythe> jralls: For make dist, autotools does a "partial build" before packing the tarball: running swig, running xsltproc, replacing variables like SHELL in *.in.in files, etc.
14:12:07 <codesmythe> jralls: Do you think I need to do that for cmake builds as well?
14:12:39 <warlord> codesmythe: yes
14:12:42 <jralls> Yes, otherwise the distribution tarballs will depend on extra tools.
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14:13:42 <jralls> In particular, swig, xsltproc, and intltool.
14:14:39 <codesmythe> ok, thanks.
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14:19:02 <codesmythe> Does a cmake generated tarball need to be buildable with autotools? I'd assume not.
14:20:16 <warlord> If we're moving over to cmake completely then I think it's safe to assume cmake-only from the tarball
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14:21:41 <codesmythe> ok, that's what I thought
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14:23:04 <jralls> Ideally the tarball shouldn't need cmake, only make and a compiler. That's what autotools does: configure is a shell script.
14:24:17 <warlord> jralls: but doesn't that imply you know apriori what platform is using the tarball?
14:26:03 <jralls> Nope, only that the platform provides a bourne-compatible shell. Configure is supposed to take care of figuring out the rest of the platform.
14:30:43 <warlord> Are we talking configure or cmake?
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14:36:01 <codesmythe> back in a bit
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14:36:45 <jralls> Yes. Autotools make dist creates a tarball that requires only make and a compiler. Is cmake unable to do that? If so then ISTM we'll have to continue to use autotools to make the tarballs.
14:38:24 <warlord> correct, autotools does do that.. then you run the configure script to determine your compile-time options/situation.
14:38:40 <warlord> My understanding is that cmake replaces both autotools AND configure.
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14:48:13 <jralls> OK. How much screaming can we expect if tarballs suddenly require cmake to build?
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14:55:46 <warlord> That's a good question.
14:56:20 <warlord> I don't have cmake installed on my system ;)
14:56:43 <warlord> if I try to install it, it also brings in jsoncpp.
14:58:19 <jralls> What's wrong with jsoncpp? It makes a nice compile database that clang uses for all sorts of nifty stuff.
14:58:59 <warlord> I didn't say anything was wrong with it.
15:06:19 <jralls> I took "try...also brings in" as a complaint. Was it not?
15:08:05 <jralls> Time for lunch. Back in a while.
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15:12:34 <warlord> Sorry, it, wasn't meant as a complaint.
15:12:49 <warlord> If it brought in dozens of things, *then* it would be a complaint.
15:13:00 <warlord> (I guess my only complaint is that it's not part of the default install)
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16:06:39 <test12234> heya I am trying to export the gnucash transaction report to libreoffice in a way that i can pivot tables on it, but the first column looks like this http://pastebin.com/raw/6Hvh71vi
16:06:57 <test12234> which doesn't really work with pivot tables
16:08:39 <test12234> I think I'd need the Gas and Groceries labels in a column for pivot table to work
16:08:46 <test12234> but I don't know how to do tiat
16:08:49 <test12234> that
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16:26:21 <warlord> test12234: are you trying to cut-and-paste? Or are you trying to save as HTML and import?
16:26:58 <test12234> warlord: save as HTML and import
16:27:19 <test12234> I think i need to have the transaction report in a certain way for it to do what i need it to do
16:27:29 <test12234> but i donn't know what way that is =_
16:27:30 <test12234> =)
16:31:04 <test12234> Here's a more concrete example, after I imported http://pastebin.com/raw/irdZJPug
16:32:11 <test12234> I can remove the "Total For xxx" rows in the transaction report, but I still don't know how to format the transaction report in such a way that "Gas", "Adjustment", and "Auto" would be in their own columns
16:34:46 <warlord> What exactly are you trying to do?
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16:37:04 <test12234> export transaction report to libreoffice so i can use pivot tables on it
16:37:28 <test12234> libreoffice/excel
16:59:24 <warlord> Why
16:59:56 <warlord> What data, exactly, are you trying to extract? (To what end/purpose?)
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17:02:38 <test12234> warlord: The transaction report is all my expenses in a give year, including all the subaccounts. I would like to extract that data so i can use pivot tables on it. I realize that gnucash can create a nice pie chart with breakdowns but I'd still like to be able to export that to libreoffice/excel for more detailed analysis
17:03:25 <warlord> test12234: you're not answering my question. What do you expect to accomplish using pivot tables?
17:04:01 <warlord> GnuCash has a bunch of reports, some of which might already provide you the analysis you require.
17:06:15 <test12234> you are right and it may not be any beneficial. If it's' not possible to export in that fashion then thats fine
17:08:41 <warlord> Well, it *should* be possible, but if you're having this much trouble it might be easier to go the other route.
17:08:48 <warlord> What version of gnucash are you using?
17:10:15 <test12234> 2.6.11. Primarilly I want to export is because I am trying to learn pivot tables and it would've been nice to use data I care about
17:16:58 <warlord> Try exporting a P&L report ;)
17:17:49 <test12234> profit & loss?
17:18:51 <warlord> yes.
17:18:54 <warlord> (aka Income Statement)
17:23:11 <warlord> test12234: gotta run. BIAW
17:23:29 <test12234> cya
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