2016-02-18 GnuCash IRC logs

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11:12:16 <gour> hiya, i see that someone is complaining about GC and its cals ("budget totals thread"), but just want to say that i'm happy user, moved back to it after some time spending in attempt to use ledger/beancount and even - probably due to GC's influence - have become interested to learn and use Racket language. ;) thanks to all devs!!
11:18:32 <sm> gour: nice
11:19:03 <sm> I'm interested in GC/*ledger data transfer (both ways), if you have any tips
11:26:03 <gour> sm: there is app to convert from GC to ledger via sqlite3 db
11:26:30 <sm> gour: oh, what's its name ?
11:27:01 <gour> https://github.com/MatzeB/pygnucash
11:27:13 <sm> thanks
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11:40:35 <gour> i wanted to use beancount but found nothing to tweak ledger data...at the end, GC's reconcile as well as output proved to be even more productive...finallly, by learning racket (scheme) it would be possible to even customize some report(s) if the default ones won't be sufficient...too bad i've to use another php web app for quotes/invoices since GC does not actually have separate counters for
11:40:38 <gour> that...
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11:45:33 <sm> gour: what do you mean by tweak.. a GUI editor ?
11:47:02 <gour> sm: but, but adjust ledger's data into more idiomatic beancount format
11:48:57 <gjanssens> gour: thanks for your support :)
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11:52:59 <gour> gjanssens: well, my support is only by usage, for now
11:58:14 <gjanssens> gour: with support I meant showing your appreciation...
11:58:30 <gjanssens> And that "for now" looks promising ;)
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11:59:12 <gjanssens> But feel free to contribute as you like, even just talking about gnucash is good imo
12:01:52 <gour> well, i'm not sure i'll go back to C(++), but maybe there will be some opportunity for scheme (hopefully, guile and racket are not so different)
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12:05:34 <gjanssens> gour: *back* ?
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12:18:09 <gour> gjanssens: i used those langs loooooooooooong ago :-)
12:18:21 <gour> now prefer something more higher-level ;)
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12:31:03 <jralls> gour: Sorry, we intend to reduce the Guile usage in favor of C++. Also, C++11 is somewhat different to C++98 and even more different to "ARM" C++. You'll probably have to start over learning it.
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14:11:37 <linas> glurg warlord looking at it now
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14:22:07 <warlord> linas: thanks
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14:38:57 <linas> warlord is your ipv6 back up?
14:39:06 <linas> its still commented out, here.
14:47:12 <gour> jralls: what about 'reporting language'? Probably you don't consider to use C++ instead. :-)
14:49:01 <jralls> gour: Reports will stay in Scheme for awhile unless someone comes up with a better idea.
14:51:50 <gour> good
14:52:55 <Mechtilde> "better ideas" are not the problem
14:53:05 <Mechtilde> the problem is to realized them
14:53:26 <Mechtilde> +to know how
14:54:38 <linas> ++ Mechtilde
14:56:13 <warlord> linas: nope, not yet. :( I'll let you know when. It might be a month or two.
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16:09:47 <linas> warlord -- OK dnssec should be back up. The KSK expired over christmas; I didnt notice; it has to be handled manually
16:10:25 <warlord> Oh. oops.
16:10:40 <warlord> When does it expire next?
16:11:13 <linas> not sure. I think a year.
16:11:40 <linas> I can't quite figure out how expiration is handled.
16:12:45 <warlord> hmm
16:12:49 <linas> its not really a part of the key, its part of the infrastructure, and its automated in such a way as to make it opaque
16:13:24 <linas> I'm concluding that dnssec is the worst piece of software I've ever had to admin
16:13:54 <linas> I cannot ever become popular, given its current implementation status.
16:14:17 <warlord> Are you there there aren't better tools?
16:14:24 <linas> Its not just "rocket science", its rocket science that is befuddling to rocket scientists
16:14:53 <linas> not that I am aware of.
16:15:07 <linas> Thhere are blog posts stating that dnssec is a mistake
16:15:19 <linas> and that its the wrong approach to the wrong problem
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16:16:20 <warlord> 'm sure some people feel that way
16:17:12 <linas> the post(s) I read made a fairly rational-sounding argument. I didn't see holes in it
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16:18:34 <linas> I mean, it wasn't just a tirade; ti was written by someone who understood it, and argued otherwise.
16:21:54 <warlord> So what did they say would be a better solution?
16:24:09 <linas> http://sockpuppet.org/blog/2015/01/15/against-dnssec/
16:25:05 <linas> don't just roll your eyes at the first bullit. Keep reading farther in
16:31:44 <warlord> The "DNS is Incomplete" section is wrong. It assumes that browsers (and indeed end resolvers) are not performing DNSSEC validation.
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16:45:31 <warlord> I have no idea who Thomas & Erin Ptacek are. Never heard of them.
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20:17:12 <codesmythe> jralls: On recent libchipcard addition to gnucash-on-osx: it points to version 5.0.4, but that is not listed at https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/Dependencies
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