2015-11-24 GnuCash IRC logs
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05:29:44 <gour> morning
05:30:55 <gour> i was not able to fully see last Balance column in my layout and tried to fix it by dragging column handles, but now it's even more broken...any tip how to easily fix it?
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09:18:48 <warlord> gour: double-click in the column header
09:19:08 <warlord> Administrator: which SP level are you running on XP?
09:19:18 <Administrator> SP3
09:26:59 <warlord> Just making sure.
09:27:14 <warlord> For one thing, you do NOT need Cygwin installed, and indeed having it installed might cause issues.
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09:27:37 <warlord> Second, do you have any other Gtk-using apps installed? Some other apps (I dont recall which offhand) set global environment variables that interfere with GnuCash
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09:51:13 <Administrator> Cygwin was installed for other software such as python before Gnucash was installed
09:51:52 <Administrator> I'm not sure what you mean by 'Gtk-using apps' I shall google it
09:52:36 <Administrator> Do you know which global environment variables Gnucash depends on?
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10:04:05 <Administrator> Warlord: I thing the answer to the question is - no. I don't think I jave any other Gtk using apps installed. For the Cywin version which parts of Gtk would I need to install? When Gnucash installed through Cywin it did mentioned dependencies, which it also downloaded, but what they were I couldn't say. Looking at the installed list it would appear that no part of Gtk is installed.
10:05:15 <warlord> Administrator: you do not need to install anything; GnuCash is completely self-contained.
10:05:44 <warlord> HOWEVER, if you have global environment variables pointing e.g. PATH to a place that has a conflicting library, that could cause problems.
10:05:56 <warlord> Cygwin, being installed, COULD be causing this bad interaction.
10:06:13 <warlord> Do you have another system around that does NOT have cygwin installed?
10:08:44 <Administrator> Understood. Thankyou for the heads up. I'll check the path variables and also try installing it on machine with no Cygwin. I also later realised that windows bugs are normally reported through Bugzilla so have opened one on there. If I fix I'll update it for reference.
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10:14:10 <gour> warlord: it helps a bit, but not fully...i lost 'R' column in one assets account?
10:14:14 <warlord> Well, no need to open a bug report until we determine there is actually a bug here.
10:14:32 <warlord> Again, try double-clicking..
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10:19:23 <gour> warlord: it does not help
10:20:01 <gour> btw. i've found that for one checking account i used type 'bank' instead of 'assets'...i assume 'Assets' is correct one?
10:20:14 <gour> or vice versa?
10:20:52 <warlord> the only difference is the register column headers.
10:21:12 <gour> yeah, what would be more appropriate?
10:21:48 <gour> and 'R' column still does not appear
10:23:44 <gour> i'll change all to 'Bank'...
10:24:25 <warlord> Doesn't matter; it's completely up to you.
10:25:17 <warlord> As for the 'R' column, you must have made it zero size -- just grab the column header where it should be and drag right
10:26:00 <gour> warlord: that helped. thanks
10:28:38 <Administrator> Warlord: Running it on another machine (different hardware but identical OS and Cygwin not installed) has been successful. Thankyou for that.
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10:29:34 <warlord> Administrator: you're welcome
10:33:01 <Administrator> Bugzilla 'bug' report updated for those that follow, and status update as 'resolved'
10:33:14 <warlord> Okay, thanks Administrator
10:33:33 <warlord> (interference from Cygwin is sort of a known limitation, but there just isnt much we can do about it)
10:39:09 <Administrator> Do you have any pointers as to what the issue is with that? ie is there any work round?
10:40:29 <warlord> I know of no workaround, short of removing all the cygwin paths from all your environment variables; the programs have conflicting libraries.
10:40:45 <warlord> But doing that may break cygwin.
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10:43:17 <Administrator> Interesting. I think it's easy to do this (from memory) to get GnuCash to work. If it breaks Cygwin while I use it that's fine. I'll just put them back in once done, as GnuCash would only really be used at year end. At least I have 2 machines now to compare :)
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12:20:32 <warlord> linas: FYI, my IPv6 is going to be changing next week -- to what, I don't know yet -- but I'm going to need the code.gnucash.org AAAA record updated.
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12:23:20 <linas> OK
12:23:42 <linas> I guess that means I have to kick DNS, because its still not slaving correctly?
12:23:55 <warlord> linas: I'll let you know more once I know it; worst case we might just 'remove' the AAAA record until it's updated for sure.
12:23:59 <warlord> Is it not slaving correctly?
12:24:08 <linas> I dunno ..
12:24:29 <linas> normally, if you have the master, and you update records, you should not have to tell me about it :)
12:25:29 <linas> Ugh,
12:25:36 <linas> sorry, yes, I have to change this,
12:25:44 <linas> I was thinking flybynight
12:26:24 <linas> BTW, my isp still doesn't support ipv6 :-(
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13:43:05 <warlord> linas: right, you maintain gnucash.org, which is why you need to care ;)
13:43:23 <warlord> Have you considered an ipv6 tunnel from, e.g. Hurricane Electric?
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14:06:29 <linas> no. I mean native ipv6 for gnucash.org webserver
14:10:19 <warlord> linas: yes, I know. I was suggesting using an ipv6 tunnel for v6 service instead of "native" v6 from your ISP
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14:16:54 <warlord> It would still be routable v6; just requiring a few extra physical hops
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14:36:39 <srbaker> heya folks
14:37:10 <srbaker> my online banking does this weird thing where the "description" is a truncated title, followed by / followed by the date of the purchase (not the reconciled date)
14:38:10 <srbaker> so a sample line from the CSV looks like this: 2015-10-26,2015-10-24,5484172540,SKÅNETRAFIKE/15-10-23,-1195,25656.99
14:38:30 <srbaker> the /15-10-23 is the date that i actually made the purchase.
14:38:47 <warlord> srbaker: if the source data contains that, there's not much we can do.,
14:39:05 <srbaker> well, my question is this: how do i get the CSV importer to put that in the Memo field
14:39:10 <srbaker> and then i'll just fill in the Descriptions myself
14:39:35 <srbaker> or is that a thing i should even bother doing?
14:40:06 <srbaker> i figured i'd write a script to go through and try to auto-fill the Description
14:40:43 <warlord> That might be easier, to pre-process to CSV before you import it.
14:41:23 <srbaker> oh, that's intersting.
14:41:39 <srbaker> so i wsa thinking i would actually like that original data in the Memo field. but the CSV importer doesn't seemto have an optoin for Memo
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14:51:38 <srbaker> this seems like it's a bug. when i choose a field for Memo in the CSV importer, it doesn't use it
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17:03:36 <gnubie> anyone using GnuCash in OS X?
17:14:16 <gnubie> i don't know if this happens to you, when you are adding a new transaction and you select the dropdown menu of the account to transfer to, the menu freezes
17:14:34 <gnubie> and you can only select an option with the keyboard
17:14:51 <gnubie> but when you hover the mouse on the dropdown menu it doesn't respond
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17:54:37 <gnubie> not really a big deal cause it's easier to type, but i remember in windows you could also click the account in the list
17:55:00 <gnubie> so i guess this is just a problem in the OS X version
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18:32:49 <jralls> gnubie: I use GnuCash on OSX daily, I don't think I've had that problem, nor do I remember it coming up. What version of GnuCash, what version of OSX, and are you using GnuCash.app from our website?
18:35:38 <jralls> If it's just the menu freezing, IOW you can click outside the menu and it will go away and you can type the account in, then it may just be Gtk not registering the listbox. Try moving the pointer out of the listbox and back in and see if it activates.
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19:09:56 <gnubie> jralls: the sourceforge GnuCash is the official one?
19:10:07 <gnubie> i'm using the latest version of both :)
19:12:14 <gnubie> yes if i click outside or press esc it unfreezes, it's not a problem at all if i just type in the account names and use autocomplete :), but if it click the square to bring the accounts menu, it doesn't let me click on any option of the dropdown menu
19:16:04 <gnubie> if i move the pointer outside the listbox and back inside, the menu is still frozen
19:49:52 <gnubie> it's OS X 10.11.1 and Gnucash 2.6.9 :)
19:50:04 <gnubie> I will try on windows to see it it happens too
20:18:55 <gnubie> Tried it on windows 10, and it works perfectly
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20:34:06 <gnubie> like i said it's not a problem at all when using only the keyboard, but it's something i noticed :)
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20:56:11 <gnubie> even if it's not a critical problem, do you know where i can report it as a but so it might get fixed on a later version?
21:13:57 <warlord> gnubie: bugzilla
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21:14:47 <gnubie> ok thanks, i'm looking around to see if it's already reported
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