2015-10-04 GnuCash IRC logs

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07:30:37 <Unhammer> Heinrich, one db forever here, but have only used it for 1.5 years so far
07:37:34 <joe> did I by any chance prompt the creation of this bug report? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756037
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17:33:21 <Heinrich> is there any way to import currency exchange rates that I get from Oanda? The automatic currency exchange fetch if it works at all, has been for me one of the biggest mysteries since I started to work with GnuCash 8 years ago.
17:40:03 <jralls> Heinrich: Not unless you write an interface. What's Oanda?
17:41:08 <Heinrich> Historical currency exchange rates http://www.oanda.com/
17:41:36 <Heinrich> not sure what source GnuCash uses
17:42:58 <Heinrich> I understand that it requires a lot of effort to maintain the possibly changing online APIs, so import would be something more stable
17:44:47 <jralls> Heinrich: Yahoo! for currencies, filtered via perl's Finance::Quote. The easiest path would be to write an Oanda interface module for Finance::Quote, though I can't imagine why that would be an improvement over Yahoo!.
17:45:04 <Heinrich> I've looked into gnucash github, but even building the project is not an easy task, not to speak about modifying the code
17:45:48 <jralls> Heinrich: You wouldn't be modifying GnuCash code, you'd be extending Finance::Quote. You can find the sources on CPAN.
17:46:29 <Heinrich> if Yahoo gives you historical data than that's more than enough, no need for Oanda
17:47:18 <Heinrich> but even that does not work always and the integration with GnuCash is hard to understand
17:48:28 <Heinrich> or even the UI sometimes displaying float point numbers and sometimes rational numbers :)
17:48:31 <jralls> Gnucash can't get historical quotes, only the current one. I think F::Q can retrieve them, but GnuCash doesn't know how to ask.
17:51:20 <jralls> For historical quotes the only way is to enter them by hand in the Price Editor. Granted, a pain if you have a lot of them, but few GnuCash users have much need for that, at least for accounting purposes.
17:52:46 <Heinrich> do you know if then the transactions will use the closest available quote, the current or some random quote?
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17:57:16 <Heinrich> If you ever decide to rewrite the app as a web app in something like ruby on rails + ember.js then I am on board
17:57:59 <Heinrich> the current code is very hard to maintain in my opinion
17:59:43 <jralls> Heinrich: We're rewriting in C++. A Web app is pretty much a non-starter for F/LOSS applications, there's no money for the infrastructure. There are also manifold security and privacy issues with accounting data.
17:59:54 <Heinrich> I've spent the last month evaluating quickbooks and xero. While they are relatively easy to use, have some nice features I hate how they try to own me and my data.
18:00:30 <jralls> There you go. A web app is even worse, the data aren't even on your system.
18:01:19 <jralls> Anyway, transactions don't use the price database at all except to suggest a price in the Transfer Dialog. The price is calculated from the amounts of the two commodities.
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21:19:51 <warlord> Also, a self-run webapp requires users to have the knowledge to set up and maintain their own web service... Again, a non-starter for 99% of our users.