2015-08-13 GnuCash IRC logs

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07:14:55 <agerenc> I've problems with transactions in periodic payments somebody has documentation with examples for a car loan o mortgages diferent than the official documentation?
07:16:03 <MechtiIde> what do you mean with official documentation?
07:16:08 <MechtiIde> which language?
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07:23:10 <agerenc> i read it in english
07:24:15 <agerenc> i've read two .pdf documents that apear here: http://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml
07:28:11 <MechtiIde> you can help us to improve the docs
07:30:30 <agerenc> It's possible, but i don't know if my english is enough good to do that
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07:32:55 <MechtiIde> what is your preferred language?
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08:16:38 <agerenc> catalan
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14:52:39 <inksi> i am managing my wallet and one card account as an exercise in learning how to use gnucash. when I number the transactions should i use a seperate sequence for the two accounts (tricky to avoid duplicates) or two separate series (duplicates will appear in expenses, say 'Groceries' as I may buy such goods either on the card or for cash). What is the 'bookkeeper' recommended way? (if you guess that I am no bookkeeper, your are right!)
14:54:55 <warlord> inksi: there only reason to use numbers are: 1) to order txns within a day, or 2) to signify a check #
14:55:03 <warlord> Other than that, there's really no reason.
14:55:40 <inksi> warlord: i was putting the number onto the cash/card slip for easy reference at some unspecified time
14:57:25 <warlord> Just keep your receipts in date order; there's enough information on them to map: Acct, Payee, Date, and Amount.
14:57:31 <warlord> Rarely will you have duplicates.
14:58:51 <inksi> yes, unlikely to have two amounts the same for the same supplier on the same day, so they are already uniquely identified I suppose
15:00:32 * inksi is thinking
15:07:09 <inksi> my sense of order would like a number. so for the present i'll stick with just one sequence, bearing in mind that I am probably just making unnecessary work for myself :( . Your professional opinion is valued and I'll let it soak into my subconcious tonight. Thanks.
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15:47:29 <warlord> inksi: you're welcome. Good luck.
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16:03:52 <inksi> warlord: i now see one part of the wisdom of your advice as I also numbered my deposits and found that it affects the display order for a day which is best left at default (deposits before debits)
16:21:12 <warlord> *nods *
16:34:00 <inksi> thanks for your time. gotta go. bye
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19:01:07 <RestlessMind> got a question about payments recieved from an employeer when using GnuCash for a personal ledger. When you set up a recurring payment to your bank account (under assets) how do you get it to be a one line (no split) to show it was a 3rd party account, or make it not countable in your grand total/net assets and just shows a positive number in your bank. I currently have the payment credit to Asset:Bank:Bank1 with debit from
19:01:07 <RestlessMind> Income:Salary:Company1. did I possibly set this up incorrectly? Thank you in advance :)
20:12:01 <warlord> RestlessMind: What kind of payments are you receiving from your employer?
20:12:41 <RestlessMind> straight income right now since i have not edited it to reflect taxes cause i wanted to figure this out first
20:13:57 <warlord> So this is a salary payment to you? I'm not sure what you mean bu "get it to be one line (no split) to show it was a 3rd party account"?
20:16:52 <RestlessMind> yes a straight salary payment. Right now my gnucash is trying to withdraw from one account to deposit into another and when i delete the line it goes to "Imbalance-USD"
20:17:45 <warlord> RestlessMind: that says, to me, that you don't understand double-entry accounting. Have you read the Tutorial & Concepts Guide? It's quite good.
20:19:34 <RestlessMind> warlord, personally, i like what the double entry setup has to offer, but I cant remove it from just the salary types, I was trying to find out if there was a way to do it or if i need to start the whole thing back over lol :) i was having trouble finding the exact wording that stated that, why i thought i ask here :)
20:20:14 <warlord> A Salary would be a transaction from Income:Salary to Assets:Bank
20:21:16 <warlord> But really it's a split.. Credit Income:Salary, then debit your bank asset as well as all the tax withholding accounts
20:22:49 <RestlessMind> yes, but currently it just goes in the negative and was a concern that would reflect weird in the reports set up. so i believe i was heading in that direction so i think i got a direction down. Thank you warlord :)
20:23:51 <warlord> Check your "reverse balance" accounts settings in your Edit -> Preferences
20:24:14 <RestlessMind> okay i will :)
20:24:53 <warlord> Some accounts are always "negative", so that prefs setting will change those "always negative" accounts to display positive
20:25:54 <RestlessMind> guessing im looking for income and expense not credit accounts?
20:26:37 <warlord> No, "credit accounts" is the right thing (IMHO)
20:27:08 <RestlessMind> ok :) thank you :)
20:27:29 <warlord> If it's still showing up negative after that.... check the account type of your "Income" account..
20:27:43 <warlord> ... and also check that you entered your credit/debit correctly.
20:29:14 <RestlessMind> i was doing that which brought these questions to mind, since i imported. you helped clear up some noob concerns with this program :)
20:29:31 <warlord> great! happy to help
20:29:38 <RestlessMind> :)
20:43:50 <RestlessMind> warlord, i read you post as reverse not reserve... hence for what i said about income and expense... sorry about that and thank you again :)
20:45:30 <warlord> LOL
20:46:36 <RestlessMind> :p
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