2015-08-12 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:01:39 <mlq> Hello everyone! I am trying to use gnucash to figure out how much money each of my friends ows each other from the latest holiday. Therefore I've created an account for each person (one for income/one for expenses) and entered all transactions (including splits). Now I am trying to figure out who ows who by creating a report and I thought that the cash flow report would be the correct one, but
07:01:41 <mlq> apparently the numbers do not seem to be correct at all. Can anyone help me out?
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07:48:38 <mlq> Now I've tried to use the transaction report but the sums do not add up as well :\
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09:12:46 <warlord> mlq: I'm not sure how you could easily use gnucash to keep track of a many-to-many ... You could easily keep track of how much *YOU* owe each (and how much each of them owes you)...
09:13:26 <warlord> But.... I can't see how you'd do what you want to do. I can't see how the transactions would look, especially if you have split transactions to include expenses..
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09:44:42 <mlq> warlord: For instance I've paid for the plain ticket so the transaction is a income of e.g. 1000 to me and 250 as a expense of each of us. Then I tried to use the report, e.g. the transaction report to show only transactions in my expenses filtered by another person
09:49:21 <warlord> mlq: that's not correct. If you pay 1000 for 4 tickets, it would be: credit bank 1000, debit expenses:travel 250, and then debit each of your friends accounts 250
09:49:24 <warlord> There is no "income"
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10:03:35 <mlq> warlord: Yes, but I tried to use a much simpler setup just for this (this is not for my regular account); thats why I just booked additional 250 from my expense account to my income account
10:05:08 <warlord> That's not simpler
10:05:11 <warlord> (IMHO)
10:05:14 <warlord> My way is the "right" way.
10:05:51 <mlq> but i would need to do this for all of my friends as well
10:06:35 <mlq> Now it looks something like this: http://i.imgur.com/NQl9U99.png
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10:07:52 <warlord> Like I said, mlq -- i can't think of a good way to account for how much they owe each other... Just how much they each owe (or are owed by) you
10:08:49 <warlord> Your setup is.... wrong.
10:09:01 <warlord> It's much more complicated than it needs to be
10:09:14 <warlord> .. and it's going to cause you problems.
10:09:31 <warlord> Don't use Income/Expense. Use Asset (or Liabilty) accounts ... But only 1 per person.
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10:13:30 <mlq> warlord: Ah okay,thank you
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11:40:24 <MechtiIde> When I start GnuCash I get the last report view. How can I change to the accounts view
11:40:30 <MechtiIde> ?
11:44:44 <MechtiIde> I found it
11:45:10 <MechtiIde> I had to choose "New Accounts Hierarchy"
11:50:44 <mlq> warlord: Thanks for your help! I've ended up with writing a small python script (20 lines) using piecash to calculate the amounts manually! Thanks for your help and input!
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15:49:24 <morphz> Hi everybody!
15:49:41 <morphz> Got a problem building the master branch from git.
15:51:47 <morphz> Starting from file src/backend/xml/io-gncxml-v1.cpp I get loads of "template with C linkage" errors.
15:51:57 <morphz> Could anyone help me with that?
15:52:04 <morphz> Thanks in advance.
15:52:23 <morphz> (PS: the 2.6.7. tag from github builds just fine)
16:09:22 <morphz> Some more Info:
16:10:03 <morphz> I'm building on Ubuntu 15.04.
16:14:50 <warlord> morphz: you might need to pastebin the full compiler error message
16:19:20 <morphz> http://pastebin.com/DKAiqKbK
16:20:43 <morphz> My libxml2:
16:20:46 <morphz> ii libxml2:amd64 2.9.2+dfsg1-3 amd64 GNOME XML library
16:27:31 <warlord> My guess is that something is including the c++ header within an "extern "C" { ... } block
16:27:46 <warlord> but I have no idea why libxml would do that..
16:27:57 <warlord> I suggest asking on gnucash-devel
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16:28:57 <morphz> good
16:29:03 <morphz> thank you so far :)
16:29:17 <warlord> Are you sure you've got current HEAD?
16:29:24 <morphz> yep
16:29:37 <morphz> and the files havent been changed recently
16:29:41 <warlord> Has it ever built for you previously?
16:30:03 <warlord> (if yes --- what might have changed between when it worked and when it stopped working?)
16:30:05 <morphz> it built the 3.6.7 tag an hour ago
16:30:21 <morphz> sry: meaning 2.6.7
16:30:41 <morphz> is there a quick way to cover the conversation over to the other channel?
16:31:49 <morphz> gnucash-devel is the mailing list, right?
16:37:59 <morphz> Thanks, warlord.
16:38:05 <morphz> I'm going to bed now.
16:38:06 <morphz> Bye.
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18:46:18 <SpacedOut> I've upgraded to 2.6.4 and now my custom reports don't load, and no debugging, for example ~/.gnucash/config-1.8.user I have this line (display "before\n")(display (debug-options))(junk)(display "after\n") before prints, debug options print, but no debug or backtrace on (junk). Any ideas?
18:46:58 <SpacedOut> This is the debug-options output. (show-file-name #t stack 200000 backtrace depth 128 width 79)
20:30:09 <warlord> SpacedOut: where are you looking for the ooutput?
20:30:27 <SpacedOut> standard output
20:33:11 <SpacedOut> That's where the (display ...) output goes and if I try to run a saved custom report I get stack traces then In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 157: 19 [catch #t #<catch-closure 266c9c0> ...]
20:33:29 <warlord> look in your gnucas.trace
20:33:54 <warlord> gnucash.trace even!
20:37:43 <SpacedOut> That's not intuitive, some traces go to stdout some to a file? Makes no sense, but thanks for pointing that out, there are traces there.
20:43:01 <warlord> I think it's all about how you output and when... it swaps from stdout to the tracefile at some point during init.
20:43:15 <warlord> Most likely you're printing some before the init, and some after the init.
20:45:56 <SpacedOut> Except that ice-9/boot-9.scm trace is after gnucash is up and running and I try to run the report, well after my report fails to load at startup. Annoying, but helpful.
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