2015-07-13 GnuCash IRC logs

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06:31:44 <chazdiezal> jralls: thanks for the reply, i'm using the sql backend, do you know which table the attachments are stored in?
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08:38:41 <warlord> chazdiezal: the attachments are not stored in the database, only the URI is stored, in the KVP (slots)
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12:25:36 <nanaya> hi, I'm migrating data from my excel file to gnucash but I don't know how to handle this kind of transaction: https://0paste.tk/7693-ec58d565.txt
12:27:21 <nanaya> should I put the first transaction to liability/accounts-payable + expense and then later add another entry to a/p + creditcard?
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12:37:39 <warlord> I dont understand these two transactions -- what exactly does it mean?
12:38:04 <nanaya> it's single entry book
12:38:28 <nanaya> I pre-order something using credit card (which will be charged in the future)
12:38:46 <nanaya> I mark it as current date's expense but the charge date will happen in the future
12:39:02 <nanaya> charge date is mainly to match it with credit card statement
12:39:26 <nanaya> entry date is when the expense happen
12:39:58 <warlord> Ignore #2
12:40:29 <nanaya> which account should #1 marked against
12:41:28 <warlord> the correct expense account
12:41:35 <warlord> #1 is CC -> Expense
12:41:44 <warlord> #2 --- is not a real transaction
12:42:22 <nanaya> I'd have problem matching it with credit card statement
12:42:38 <warlord> during reconciliation?
12:42:57 <warlord> I dont understand what "problem" you're having
12:43:08 <nanaya> sometimes I don't know which entry is which purchase from card statement
12:43:23 <warlord> Do you have many purchases at the same amount?
12:43:31 <nanaya> sometimes, yeah
12:43:40 <nanaya> also new statements don't always appear at the bottom
12:43:57 <nanaya> it sometimes just appear at the top... or wherever it's charged
12:45:13 <nanaya> (I check the statement almost daily)
12:47:24 <warlord> This is what the reconcile process is for -- to give you the ability to match your statement to your account on a monthly basis. Order doesn't matter
12:48:28 <nanaya> hmm
12:50:00 <nanaya> I'll try
12:51:12 <nanaya> also, can I, for example, import my account from one point (say jan 1st this year) with opening balance and all and then later readd data from previous years?
12:54:10 <warlord> Not if you reconcile.
12:54:31 <warlord> Once you reconcile you've locked your start-date
12:55:45 <nanaya> so I just keep the opening balances open?
12:56:08 <nanaya> ergh, can it even work
12:58:00 <nanaya> (also I still need to read more about reconcile process)
12:59:16 <warlord> Or you just start cleanly
12:59:28 <nanaya> cleanly?
12:59:32 <warlord> Yep.
12:59:40 <warlord> Make a clean break/start
12:59:49 <warlord> (i.e., ignore history from before your start date)
13:00:50 <elb> while there's activity ... I have set my invoice format to 2015-%06d for a business book, but the format being used for invoices appears to be %06d; glancing at the source code suggests that it should be doing what I expect, which is creating an invoice ID that is (e.g.) 2015-000033 for invoice counter value 33; any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
13:01:46 <nanaya> I guess I should do that to familiarise myself with gnucash
13:01:59 <warlord> elb: Are you sure that %06d is the correct format string?
13:03:07 <elb> I don't understand the question
13:03:35 <elb> I am sure that sprintf(dest, "2015-%06d", 33) wuld result in "2015-000033" formatted into dest
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13:03:58 <nanaya> also, is there common convention for structuring accounts in multi currency? assets > (cash-usd, cash-eur)? or assets > cash > (usd, eur)? Last time I tried the latter I hit into weird problem (autocomplete was it?)
13:04:34 <warlord> elb: yes, but.... that input isn't a "fully sprint compliant" input string.
13:04:48 <elb> OK, the docs said it was a printf format
13:05:04 <warlord> It's a printf-like format, but it needs to be "correct" for your platform.
13:05:13 <elb> and the qof formatting function uses g_strdup_printf
13:05:22 <elb> (which would work with that format)
13:05:39 <warlord> nanaya: you're probably better off asking on the gnucash-user mailing list.
13:05:48 <warlord> elb: what OS/Distro/CPU are you using?
13:06:00 <elb> Debian 8, AMD64
13:06:09 <nanaya> ok
13:09:18 <warlord> hmm.. I think %d should work, then
13:10:20 <elb> that was my conclusion
13:10:35 <elb> I traced this all the way from the business-invoice dialog source to teh qof book counter manipulation
13:10:39 <elb> and I don't see why it wouldn'tw ork
13:10:43 <elb> but I didn't know if there was something I'm missing
13:11:19 <elb> it gets the counter value correctly, just not the format
13:11:43 <elb> or it doesn't apply it correctly, or it's being truncated somewhere, or *something*
13:11:58 <elb> I didn't know if maybe - was illegal in an invoice number and I just couldn't find it, or what
13:12:28 <warlord> Nah,the InvoiceID is just a string
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14:31:50 <elb> well, if any ideas come up, I'm all ears
14:32:10 <elb> becuase I'd really like to continue to keep year numbers on my invoice IDs, but not enter them all manually :-)
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14:33:27 <warlord> I've never used that feature, so I'm afraid I don't know what to suggest. You could try asking on -user?
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14:50:31 <elb> fair
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