2015-05-11 GnuCash IRC logs

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08:36:56 <Christakis> Hi guys/gals. Is there any way to forecast cashflow based on sheduled income & payments?
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16:06:05 <warlord> jralls, gjanssens: Just to make sure, we're okay with changing boost minimums such that F20 isn't "new enough"?
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16:09:49 <jralls> warlord: Unfortunately the alternative is to dump boost::date_time and use something else, maybe ICU.
16:11:22 <jralls> And that still runs the risk that something else that we want to use from boost will have C++11 problems in older versions.
16:11:35 <gjanssens> warlord: I was going the say I'd also prefer to keep at least Fedora 20 as a viable build platform if at all possible. Fedora 21 is only 6 months old.
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16:12:12 <jralls> Is there no way to update boost in F20 other than installing from source?
16:12:27 <gjanssens> But I don't have a strong opinion here
16:12:30 <warlord> Well, we could ask Fedora to backport the fix.
16:13:24 <gjanssens> How hard is it to build boost from scratch ?
16:13:50 <gjanssens> I could offer alternative boost rpms via Fedora's copr infrastructure if necessary
16:14:32 <warlord> jralls: if someone wants to run a "pure" system then the only option is RPMs
16:14:43 <gjanssens> That is if Fedora declines a request to upgrade F20 to boost 1.55
16:15:10 <warlord> I suspect they will decline updating to 1.55; they might backport the fix.
16:15:19 <warlord> (but it would still be called 1.54)
16:15:40 <jralls> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F20Boost154 implies that the boost maintainer thinks it's non-trivial to upgrade the boost version.
16:16:08 <gjanssens> Calling the version with backport still boost 1.54 would not help us
16:16:53 <warlord> well, could we do a configure build test instead of a version test?
16:19:51 <gjanssens> Ugh, reading the F20Boost154 wiki page it's indeed very unlikely that Fedora would upgrade to boost 1.55 in F20
16:20:48 <jralls> It turns out the symbol in question, boost::local_time::custom_timezone::has_dst(), is header-only: It's not in libboost_date_time.so. So if they'll backport the fix it won't affect any compiled packages unless they include the header.
16:22:19 <warlord> Yet another reason I think they might be willing to backport the fix -- it wouldnt affect existing programs and just allows the header to build with C++-11
16:22:36 <warlord> ... but then we'd need a compile test ourself to make sure it works.
16:23:35 <jralls> AC_CHECK_HEADER() should do for a compile test.
16:28:00 <jralls> Since we're talking about the master branch here, maybe we can drop the version to 1.53 and add the AC_CHECK_HEADER with instructions in the failure message to apply the 6-character patch to custom_timez_zone.hpp.
16:28:31 <jralls> That takes care of it for OpenSuSE as well.
16:30:35 <warlord> I'm fine with that approach.
16:30:57 <jralls> Lessee if I can make it work...
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