2015-04-29 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:43:15 <lmat> jralls_: I have worked on refactoring qofsession. it's straightforward except the spots where tests reach into the implementation, etc.
10:44:00 <lmat> jralls_: It looks like it may be better to start with qof backend, though, since it looks like qof session relies on backend so much. Also, there are no unit tests "in the way" of developing the backend. Does that seem right to you?
10:53:38 <lmat> z'gcy
10:53:40 <lmat> oops
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11:50:40 <sclopine> I am new to this software and i am needing some help
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11:53:46 <fell> warlord, can you /op gncbot?
11:54:45 <sclopine> i do i add a bill that has a huge balance and when i make a payment it will show it getting smaller
11:55:00 <sclopine> warlord has not been active for four days
11:55:11 <sclopine> i am using openSUSE
11:57:14 <fell> sclopine: Thanks for the info.
11:57:30 <sclopine> you are welcome
11:58:00 <fell> And what is wrong with payments reducing the A/P?
11:58:28 <sclopine> i am not sure how to add it to the database
11:59:06 <sclopine> I am trying to rescue a business and i found this software and thought I coulud use it but i am at a loss
11:59:37 <sclopine> *could
12:00:56 <fell> Did you read the guide, special http://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_bus_ar.html ff.?
12:01:04 <sclopine> do i need to add A/R then add A/P
12:04:14 <fell> A/R tracks invoices you sent your customers and A/P bills for products or services which a company has bought and needs to pay off.
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12:05:44 <warlord> @nick gncbot
12:05:44 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
12:06:07 <warlord> @nick gncbot
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12:06:13 <warlord> @op fell gjanssens
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12:06:48 <sclopine> ok so i have a bill that is $2000 and everytime i make a payment i need show that it is being deducted
12:07:14 <sclopine> i am self teaching
12:09:41 <gjanssens> tx warlord
12:12:14 <warlord> sclopine: just because I haven't said anything doesn't mean I'm not "active" ;)
12:12:38 <fell> @op jralls_ mikee
12:12:38 <gncbot> fell: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
12:12:41 <sclopine> oh ok i am new to linux and software
12:12:57 <warlord> @op jralls_ mikee
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12:13:09 <warlord> sclopine: Ignore the software portion -- this is basic accounting.
12:13:43 <warlord> When you have A/R or A/P you're basically receiving/making payments over time. Sometimes those payments are full payments, sometimes partial.
12:13:57 <sclopine> I do have some knowledge of accounting
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12:14:13 <warlord> GnuCash handles that; you create the Invoice/Bill to mark the initial transaction (owing the money).
12:14:27 <warlord> Then you use "Process Payment" to handle payments (partial or full)
12:14:41 <sclopine> ohhhh
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12:15:40 <sclopine> i know some of the lingo it is just puting it into practice on a computer
12:16:52 <sclopine> is process payment in the business part
12:18:17 <kimmo2> yes
12:19:20 <sclopine> ok
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12:33:49 <mlncn> How can i associate a bill payment with an existing transaction? Or maybe make sense of the vendor bill system at all...
12:36:40 <mlncn> Here's the scenario. Created a 'Vendor', and then a 'New bill'. It looks great. The goal is to use the bills owed information to create accurate reports of what our available money really is. Not sure how to do that.
12:37:47 <mlncn> And then i write a check to the vendor, it shows up on my bank account statements, which i import. I cannot find any way to associate that payment with the bill.
12:38:44 <warlord> mlncn: Apply payment..
12:39:06 <warlord> mlncn: gjanssens could answer more specifically
12:39:37 <warlord> But there is a way (in 2.6) to apply the transaction ex-post-facto to the invoice/bill. NOte that the txn has to go into the A/R or A/P account already, IIRC
12:40:08 <mlncn> I've read all the documentation on GnuCash's business functionality but i must be missing a lot because even when i pay the bill using the "Enter a payment for the owner of this Invoice" button and create a *new* transaction, this transaction doesn't show up as associated with the Bill. Is there somewhere else i can look at the bill than the "Edit Bill - 000001" tab?
12:40:47 <mlncn> warlord: great— i just realized i'm GnuCash 2.4.13 (Debian packages). I better update.
12:42:02 <gjanssens> mlncn: 2.6 has several improvements in payment handling, so it should be worth the update
12:42:48 <gjanssens> Best go for 2.6.6 as the earlier versions had some issues which could create payments with way too many splits in some circumstances
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12:44:13 <gjanssens> The method to assign payments to bills after the fact would be to select the payment in the account's register, right-click and select "Assign as payment..."
12:45:04 <gjanssens> The condition for this to be available is not that it should go in A/R or A/P, but rather it must have a split in an Asset or Liability account
12:45:53 <gjanssens> The normal way to apply payments is via Business->Vendor->Process Payment...
12:46:06 <gjanssens> Which you have already found
12:46:36 <gjanssens> To learn which payment is associated with a given invoice you can open an invoice report and set the option to display payments
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12:51:28 <mlncn> gjanssens, warlord: Thanks! Fancy invoice doesn't show payments even when selected, but let me try this on 2.6.6. Recommendation for Debian is to compile from sources?
12:52:05 <gjanssens> mlncn Most people seem to use the getdeb packages
12:53:30 <mlncn> Heh. Seems i have to uninstall first before it'll give them to me.
12:53:55 <mlncn> Which is likely the correct order of operations anyway
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12:58:48 <mlncn> Bah. http://www.getdeb.net/install/gnucash just installs the same old version in the Debian packages
13:04:24 <gjanssens> Hmm, I don't use debian so I don't know how to help further
13:04:30 <gjanssens> I got to run btw
13:04:33 <gjanssens> See you later
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13:04:42 <mlncn> Thanks! Bye
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13:16:29 <MechtiIde> mlncn, welche Version nutzt Du
13:22:59 <mlncn> After backing off the compiling from sources approach (aaah! dependencies! aaah!) it looks like this is my best bet... http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-gnucash-2-6-6-on-ubuntu-14-10-ubuntu-14-04-and-derivative-systems/
13:31:43 <warlord> mlncn: apt-get build-dep gnucash is your friend
13:35:12 <mlncn> warlord: how and where? Sorry. I don't have the prerequisets for that yet, i don't think? Can't even run autogen.sh to make the configure.sh script...
13:41:56 <warlord> mlncn: you said you're on Debuntu., right?
13:42:46 <warlord> "apt-get build-dep gnucash". It's a Debuntu command to, well.. "apt-get" the "build-dep"endencies for "gnucash"
13:43:38 <mlncn> warlord: Debian, yes. Ah yes! OK, well my attempt to get a more recent GnuCash from (Ubuntu) repositories must have broken it
13:44:17 <warlord> maybe
13:44:34 <warlord> Or you dont have the source packages enabled in your packages.list
13:45:08 <mlncn> warlord: ayup— that's it
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13:49:19 <mlncn> 120 MB of installed packages later...
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13:56:38 <mlncn> warlord: Thank you, much farther along now. On ./configure... configure: error: Boost 1.48.0 or later was not found and is required to build GnuCash
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14:05:50 <lmat> @op
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14:22:01 <mlncn> After sudo apt-get install libboost1.54-* now up to ./configure error: You are building from git but swig was not found or too old.
14:22:01 <mlncn> To build gnucash with guile 1.8 you need at least swig version 1.3.31.
14:25:03 <warlord> mlncn: try sudo apt-get build-dep gnucash
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15:04:10 <mlncn> warlord: had already done that, which is the only reason i'm close :-)
15:07:48 <warlord> Huh
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16:00:19 <gjanssens_> mlncn: boost is only a dependency for the development branch not for stable releases
16:00:38 <gjanssens_> you sheem to have downloaded the wrong sources
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