2015-04-01 GnuCash IRC logs
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02:55:49 <Simon> what's really annoying is that unbound is not reporting a bogus response for gnucash.org
02:56:07 <Simon> and it's not reporting an authentic response either
02:59:33 <Simon> oh there's no DS record
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07:15:20 <jralls> wcattey: Already reported on the user list and already fixed. Download 2.6.6-2.
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10:06:01 <wcattey> jralls: Thanks! It looks like your most recent commit is what fixed the problem. Thanks especially for that.
10:06:53 <wcattey> Please note that, as of this moment, the link on www.gnucash.org still points at the broken one. (10:05 AM EDT 1 April 2015.)
10:07:46 <wcattey> Relevent section of the web page:
10:07:47 <wcattey> Mac OSX binary
10:07:47 <wcattey> The Gnucash 2.6.6 MacOS X Intel and PPC packages can be downloaded from Sourceforge as well.
10:08:16 <wcattey> Where "Intel" and "PPC" are links to the .1 version.
10:14:59 <warlord> wcattey: Hey Bill. I'm sure jralls will fix it when he gets up. It's 7:15am where he is.
10:15:10 <wcattey> No prob.
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10:15:40 <wcattey> I found the .2 version on source forge, but wanted to make sure that fixing the home page didn't fall through the cracks.
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10:15:55 <wcattey> I hope and expect all is well with you, Derek.
10:18:58 <warlord> Yes, indeed. Doing well. :)
10:19:11 <wcattey> Cool.
10:20:10 <wcattey> Ok. I've done what I came here to do. I'll come by later if there's something I can contribute, or a quick question that needs answering. Thanks for the IRC channel.
10:20:16 <wcattey> bye bye.
10:20:33 <warlord> See ya!
10:20:35 <warlord> Be well
10:20:41 <wcattey> You too.
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11:04:49 <fell> gjanssens: I read your comment on the translation bug. Yesterday I started reading the gettext manual and will now improve the wiki:Translation#Background section.
11:07:24 <fell> My thought is to require e.g. gettext 0.1.14, which is in the latest RH and Debian stable and then run autopoint to get more recent templates in GC.
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11:16:07 <gjanssens> fell: thanks for working on that
11:16:32 <gjanssens> I'd like to know first though why gnucash has chosen glib-gettext over plain gettext
11:16:48 <gjanssens> And then why it has added intltool on top of that as well
11:17:18 <gjanssens> All tree packages seem to provide po/Makefile.in.in
11:17:26 <gjanssens> Each one with slight variations
11:17:28 <fell> gettextIZE copies the intl subdir in your project, but we use glib at runtime
11:17:44 <warlord> I honestly have no idea why that is the case
11:17:56 <gjanssens> fell: I meant glib-gettextize
11:18:08 <gjanssens> It's called in autogen.sh
11:18:30 <gjanssens> and it's an alternative to plain gettextize
11:18:38 <gjanssens> I don't know why that was chosen
11:18:39 <fell> glib-gettextize by default doesn't copy /intl
11:19:11 <gjanssens> we're not using /intl
11:19:14 <fell> Today you can tell it gettextize as parameter.
11:20:02 <gjanssens> Was that the reason to go with glib-gettextize instead of gettextize ?
11:20:14 <fell> AFAIK both do the same, but have other defaults for copy /intl.
11:20:47 <fell> Probably there was no parameter in old versions.
11:20:56 <gjanssens> Ok, so we can easily switch to gettextize instead of glib-gettextize
11:21:26 <gjanssens> It's however intltoolize that provides the po/Makefile.in.in we're currently using and which imo is borked
11:21:30 <fell> NO, only to gettextize --SomeParameter
11:21:51 <gjanssens> (That was implied in my conclusion)
11:22:11 <gjanssens> So what benefit does intltool bring us that gnucash chose to adopt it ?
11:22:33 <fell> I had the confusion too and started Translation#Background
11:23:49 <fell> I am not ready with readng, but probably gettext could not handle other forms as .c files at the beginning.
11:24:07 <gjanssens> That may make sense
11:24:44 <gjanssens> Note that intltoolize only adds one file: po/Makefile.in.in
11:24:58 <gjanssens> I read the script to figure that out
11:25:03 <fell> And we have .desktop, .ini, .scm, .xml, ...
11:25:59 <gjanssens> I also read inttool-update, which reveals which files are handled by xgettext and which instead need additional processing
11:26:12 * gjanssens is rescanning the file...
11:27:18 <fell> I believe it depend on your version. And out gettext currently is unversioned.
11:27:43 <fell> Everybody of us is probably using a different version...
11:28:04 <gjanssens> These are natively supported by gettext: .c .y .cs .cc .cpp .c++ h|hh|gob|py|scm(?:\\.in)*
11:28:37 <gjanssens> Pressed enter by accident before cleaning up the extensions, but you probably can read them
11:28:52 <gjanssens> This comes from intltool-update 0.50.2
11:29:18 <gjanssens> We may not require a minimal gettext version, but intltool probably does
11:29:22 <fell> see translotors view lelow in http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html
11:29:47 <fell> there are more in 0.19.4
11:31:13 <gjanssens> intltool-update checks for GNU gettext >= 0.12
11:32:35 <fell> Then we should add AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION(x.yy.zz) set in configure.ac
11:35:10 <fell> then run autopoint and review the files.
11:35:52 <gjanssens> The page you refer to lists these supported languages: C, C++, ObjectiveC, PO, Shell, Python, Lisp, EmacsLisp, librep, Scheme, Smalltalk, Java, JavaProperties, C#, awk, YCP, Tcl, Perl, PHP, GCC-source, NXStringTable, RST, Glade, Lua, JavaScript, Vala, GSettings, Desktop
11:38:11 <gjanssens> We currently have translatable strings in C(++), Scheme, GSettings, Glade and Desktop
11:38:24 <gjanssens> So it seems a recent gettext covers all our needs
11:38:53 <gjanssens> I'd say go ahead and see what happens if we drop glib-gettextize and intltool
11:39:32 <gjanssens> Oh, and thanks for doing all the hard research
11:44:15 <gjanssens> fell: as this is fairly expermimental, the work should be done on master, not on maint
11:44:26 <gjanssens> IMO at least
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15:13:43 <botzko> hello there
15:16:31 <botzko> Can anyone help me with reports - I receive "No account selected". On "Report Options -> Accounts" I select every account there but after pressing "Apply" button accounts are deselected.
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15:19:15 <fell> botzko: play with the level and open/closed tree view in that dialog
15:19:55 <fell> (I am not shure which are the right settings)
15:21:03 <botzko> I have searched on google and they suggest this on one forum. I have try to open every account, so I'm sure leafs are selected.
15:21:25 <botzko> I try to select only one account but the result is the same - it's deselected after pressing apply button :(
15:22:08 <fell> Your Gnucash version and which report?
15:22:20 <fell> and your OS?
15:22:21 <botzko> version is 2.6.6
15:22:41 <botzko> advanced portfolio
15:23:58 <botzko> I have tried with others and it's the same. Only in Transaction Report I can select accounts.
15:24:16 <fell> OPerating System?
15:25:30 <fell> Windows, MacOSX-arch, distri-Linux?
15:25:43 <botzko> Slackware Linux
15:26:10 <fell> Ah, thats, from where I remember your name!
15:26:32 <fell> Thanks for the wiki update!
15:27:26 <botzko> :)
15:31:19 <fell> I just run it in the trunk version and had no problems.
15:32:06 <botzko> hmmmm
15:33:26 <fell> How about other dialogs like edit->preferences, file->property?
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15:35:11 <fell> Somewhre else something wrong with gtk-treeview?
15:35:23 <botzko> what about them? They are working. I can make modifications there.
15:36:44 <botzko> I will try with 2.6.5
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15:48:56 <botzko> It's the same with 2.6.5
16:14:01 <botzko> I have Ubuntu virtual machine and try there. Version is 2.6.1 and the behavior is the same.
16:14:15 <botzko> Can it be because of the data?
16:15:51 <botzko> Do you know where I can find example accounts and transactions to test on it?
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16:52:40 <fell> botzko: Sorry I had to leave suddenly.
16:53:28 <fell> File->New and choose one of the templates.
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17:35:43 <botzko> See you. May be we can continue tomorrow.
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18:07:50 <fell> OK, botzko.
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21:54:48 <peeves> good day to you kind sirs!
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22:52:39 <andygraybeal> is there a gnucash that can be used on a web server? or similiar application to gnucash that can be run on a web server?
22:52:56 <andygraybeal> and have more than one person access the data
22:55:13 <andygraybeal> i just found this: https://github.com/nylen/gnucash-django
22:55:32 <andygraybeal> https://code.google.com/p/belugacash/
23:00:42 <andygraybeal> aah run a database on a server.. and run the client on the machine
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