2015-03-11 GnuCash IRC logs
00:14:32 <jeffsf> Yeah — Gonna try a virtualenv instead of the gtk-osx environment
00:34:01 <MarkMynsted1> Why compile it yourself?
00:45:08 <jeffsf> (A) Current versions of libraries, especially when SSL/TLS is involved
00:45:27 <jeffsf> (B) There are some things in the behavior that I much prefer to change
00:45:58 <jeffsf> On Linux, you generally link to the libraries — on OSX, they aren'
00:46:09 <jeffsf> t general;ly available, so they are bound up with the executable
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03:20:00 <jralls> MarkMynsted1: Please read the Tutorial and Concept Guide and the Manual at http://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml.
03:22:07 <MarkMynsted1> ok, I will check it out.
03:22:09 <MarkMynsted1> thank you
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07:15:57 <kraftb> Hi,
07:16:11 <kraftb> Is there a simple way to change the smalles possible fraction for EUR to 1/1000
07:16:43 <kraftb> My problem: My telephone provider keeps an account on my credits in 1/1000 euro.
07:17:15 <kraftb> If I just set the smallest possible fraction to 1/1000 it shows three decimal places, but while entering a value it gets rounded.
07:17:19 <kraftb> I guess this is this bug:
07:18:14 <kraftb> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=333664
07:18:28 <kraftb> Is there any solution except recompiling gnucash? like described here:
07:18:55 <kraftb> http://code.gnucash.org/logs/2011/04/2011-04-09.html (23:35:19)
07:22:37 <kraftb> I guess there is no way of setting 1/1000 Euro only for one account and the jump target
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08:30:21 <warlord> kraftb: No, you cannot change the SCU of a currency.
08:30:38 <kraftb> Hi
08:30:39 <warlord> (without rebuilding)
08:30:59 <kraftb> So how would you solve the problem of having a vendor account with sub-cent fractions?
08:31:07 <warlord> Round
08:31:24 <kraftb> well ... but then my account would get out of sync with their bookkeeping.
08:31:27 <warlord> Or don't store it as EUR. Make a stock that *acts* like EUR.
08:31:34 <kraftb> It may be, that I choose this way.
08:31:50 <kraftb> But can I add a stock account inside a default account?
08:31:56 <warlord> no
08:32:04 <warlord> You'll find it's hard to do what you want to do.
08:32:05 <kraftb> How can I create a stock account?
08:32:21 <kraftb> hmm ... I already recompiled gnucash and it seems working.
08:32:49 <kraftb> But I don't like the fact that I have to have 1/1000 Euro everywhere just because one of my vendors is keeping them
08:33:40 <warlord> I would ask your vendor for your 1/1000 of a Euro back and see what they say?
08:33:55 <kraftb> I guess they will just round the value up ...
08:34:01 <warlord> exactly
08:34:05 <warlord> (or down)
08:34:56 <kraftb> A few minutes ago I checked how this value gets into the bills ... they charge me 1.5 cent for landline calls
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08:35:14 <kraftb> so every month I make an uneven amount of landline call minutes they charge me a half cent
08:35:46 <kraftb> in the "official" section where they show the included VAT everything is rounded to 1/100
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08:38:20 <kraftb> I guess I will stay with 1/100 and just add a correction of 0.01 Euro every few months. Using the expenses account as target
08:38:28 <kraftb> The VAT should be unaffected ...
08:40:44 <warlord> there you go.
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13:17:47 <fell> MarkMynsted1: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation has a video section too.
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13:21:39 <fell> jeffsf: The MacOS expert is jralls. If your build problems continue, ask when he appears.
13:24:15 <MarkMynsted1> ok fell . I think perhaps I need double entry accounting info as much as gnucash.
13:24:37 <MarkMynsted1> I see there are tons of accounting videos too. It is nice to get a recommendation when there are so many.
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13:25:50 <fell> At least, you should read the tutorial http://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/
13:27:59 <jeffsf1> If jrails or anyone else knows how to solve the libsoup build issue for Mac OS X, I'd appreciate the help. Trying to find the meaning of "Someone changed the format to use only one arg…" in https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-osx-devel-list/2014-December/msg00020.html
13:32:36 <fell> Currently it might be easier to reach him by mail. He is the author of above mail.
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13:33:24 <fell> jralls: jeffsf has a build problem.
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13:41:15 <jeffsf1> Thanks fell — I'm planning on reporting what I've had to do to get to this point as well as enquiring on the gnucash-devel list
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13:45:04 <warlord> jeffsf1: I think email might be the best answer; jralls seems to bounce in and out of this chatroom. He's also in Japan right now so keep that in mind for timezone issues.
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13:50:13 <jeffsf1> Thanks — will do
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13:55:44 <jeffsf1> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.gtk2.osx.devel/153
13:55:45 <jeffsf1> Select 4 to open a shell. cd to glib-networking. Run
13:55:45 <jeffsf1> make uninstall && make install
13:55:45 <jeffsf1> Quit the shell and select 1, rerun build. All will be well.
13:56:12 <jeffsf1> "How's that for weird?" — Yep, I agree!
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14:04:07 <warlord> huh
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14:05:46 <jeffsf1> Yeah — if you uninstall and reinstall glib-networking, the build continues
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19:26:04 <jralls> jeffsf: jhbuild build --skip=openssl will skip openssl. You might need to add --no-poison as well if jhbuild declines to build gnutls or aqbanking.
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20:56:11 <jeffsf1> Thanks jralls — patch for xmlsec as a pull request on your github, when you have some time
20:56:34 <jralls> jeffsf1: Already merged, thanks
20:56:49 <jeffsf1> Glad to help
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