2015-03-10 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:12:33 <fell> warlord: An exception occurred during push on URI git@code.gnucash.org:gnucash: git@code.gnucash.org:gnucash: Read timed out after 30.000 ms
01:13:49 <fell> but I can see my commit now on github
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04:34:49 <fell> trying to rebase master on maint, I get a merge conflict in src/engine/test/Makefile.am:14: ${GUILE_CFLAGS} vs. ${GUILE_INCS}
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05:26:46 <fell> It happens while applying 'Add Account property "lot-next-id"'
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07:25:13 <fell> @tell gjanssens Have a look at my recent change on http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#LANG_vs_LANGUAGE
07:25:13 <gncbot> fell: The operation succeeded.
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09:38:12 <warlord> fell: why are you rebasing master into maint? I didn't think we were supposed to go in that direction?
09:38:37 <warlord> fell: Hmm, not sure about the exception. :-/
09:43:19 <fell> No, the other direction rebase master on maint.
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09:45:47 <fell> Probably the exception is only caused by some delay. If I redo the push, I get a "nothing to do".
09:49:06 <warlord> could be
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16:01:14 <hinnerk> hi
16:02:43 <hinnerk> I have to admit I was surprised by Wm's reaction to my posts on the mailing list today. Did my posts contain something offensive that I'm not aware of?
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16:15:31 <warlord> hinnerk: I think it's just Wm
16:16:27 <hinnerk> ok, thank you, I wasn't sure.
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16:18:07 <hinnerk> I was quite taken aback by him suggesting people should cease to talk to me...
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16:26:24 <warlord> He can certainly be quite abrasive.
16:28:17 <hinnerk> I guess it's best if I just ignore him for now.
16:29:02 <warlord> Yeah.. I think so.
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16:47:54 <MarkMynsted> which should I use for import qif, ofx or qfx?
16:48:17 <MarkMynsted> If my back offers the different formats.
16:48:34 <MarkMynsted> I can not find an explanation as to which has more information, in the gnucash dos.
16:48:42 <MarkMynsted> s/dos/docs/g
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16:53:05 <warlord> MarkMynsted: ofx and qfx are effectively the same.
16:53:40 <warlord> For importing from a bank, OFX/QFX is *probably* better than QIF because it will do improved duplicate detection, preventing you from importing the same transaction multiple times.
16:53:53 <warlord> IMHO the QIF importer UI is "nicer"
16:54:10 <MarkMynsted> ok. I will try ofx/qfx then
16:54:12 <MarkMynsted> thank you
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17:04:28 <warlord> good luck
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17:16:17 <jeffsf> Good afternoon (or evening)
17:16:53 <jeffsf> I've been trying to build GnuCash on OS X 10.10 as per http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSX/Quartz
17:17:15 <jeffsf> I've adjusted to the 10.10 SDK, but it fails on openssl
17:17:53 <jeffsf> I've read JR's comment — Just put `skip.add(‘openssl’) to your .jhbuildrc-custom.
17:18:26 <jeffsf> But that results in other errors in parsing, at least as I've added it to my .jhbuildrc-custom
17:18:47 <jeffsf> Are there any clearer directions for resolving this build issue?
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17:57:45 <MarkMynsted> so an unbalanced transaction on import. . . A deposit would be an unbalance transaction. On import, do I double click the transaction and select something for the source of the deposit?
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17:59:14 <hinnerk> Yes. E.g. Income or Cash
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18:00:23 <MarkMynsted> ok. What about promissory note?
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18:01:04 <MarkMynsted> would that be equity or income?
18:05:45 <MarkMynsted> ok that worked. thank you
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18:21:33 <hinnerk> n8
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19:00:09 <MarkMynsted> What is the R column in the register has an 'n' or a 'c' in the column. Also some rows have a little box with an 'x' inside.
19:00:14 <MarkMynsted> what are those boxes.
19:01:22 <jeffsf> Any suggestions on how to get a Mac OS X build to skip "openssl" (that fails to build with "…has no symbols")?
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19:14:40 <MarkMynsted1> oh finally found the register in the docs...
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19:46:12 <MarkMynsted1> anybody know an online class in double entry accounting?
19:46:36 <MarkMynsted1> and or gnucash?
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19:51:38 <jeffsf> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0976474409/
19:51:49 <jeffsf> Financial Accounting: A Mercifully Brief Introduction Paperback – July 22, 2006
19:52:19 <jeffsf> Under $10 and lives up to its name
19:52:53 <MarkMynsted1> you have used this?
19:53:09 <jeffsf> I read it years ago and thought it was solid
19:53:19 <jeffsf> At least the way that I learn, it was a great asset
19:53:23 <jeffsf> (no pun intended)
19:53:56 <MarkMynsted1> heh
19:57:39 <MarkMynsted1> The problem with a book is finding a way to force myself to read it. he
19:57:41 <MarkMynsted1> h
19:57:59 <jeffsf> It's a reasonably fast read
20:04:28 <warlord> jeffsf: Alas, you might need to wait for jralls to show up
20:05:26 <jeffsf> Thanks warlord — beating on it a bit here. Found a jrails post, then found a "typo" in it, so might be able to move ahead.
20:05:51 <warlord> jeffsf: okay
20:06:03 <jeffsf> My poor Mac sounds like a Concorde at takeoff
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20:09:19 <MarkMynsted1> jeffsf: uh oh. Having problems with the drive? http://www.corecode.at/smartreporter/
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20:20:25 <jeffsf> At one time there was a development branch using Qt — is that still active?
20:22:06 <warlord> jeffsf: no. it was just a single developer's toy project.
20:22:18 <warlord> I believe he periodically makes sure it still builds.
20:22:25 <jeffsf> Thanks
20:22:39 <jeffsf> (apologies for not knowing how to get DM to work in Adium here)
20:40:29 <MarkMynsted1> ok any youtube recommendations for double entry accounting?
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21:17:49 <jeffsf> Well, have resolved the openssl problem, as well as needing to re-point xmlsec to the GNOME repo.
21:18:07 <jeffsf> Will have to deal with libsoup later on
21:18:11 <jeffsf> g'nite all
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22:16:31 <MarkMynsted1> I do not understand why some expenses are not showing on my Tax schedule report.
22:16:50 <MarkMynsted1> Maybe I made those expense account incorrect?
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22:35:46 <TommyT> MarkMynsted1: I haven't used the Tax Schedule but there is some doc http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/C/gnucash-help/set-tax-options.html
22:36:30 <TommyT> note the suggestion there to show the Tax Info column on the Accounts tab to make it easier to see which accounts have been set
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22:38:58 <MarkMynsted1> I did that and all I can tell is that some expense accounts are included and some are not. I can not see why some are not.
22:39:25 <MarkMynsted1> ooooh
22:39:31 <MarkMynsted1> this is different page
22:39:42 <MarkMynsted1> This might be the answer.
22:39:47 <MarkMynsted1> ok, I will check. Thank you
22:40:40 <TommyT> Google sends you to the older version of the documentation. Is that what happened to you?
22:43:01 <MarkMynsted1> I guess. I have trouble finding anything in the docs. When I click help from the app it loads the docs stored on my system, then I can not search it very well. I think I need to find the correct, comprehensive pdf version of the documenation.
22:43:35 <MarkMynsted1> Though I will try your link and see what its contents looks like.
22:45:31 <MarkMynsted1> Your link is exactly what I needed. :-)
22:45:42 <TommyT> The docs that get installed with the application are in html format, but the help viewer may not present it well. You could point a regular browser there, or look at the same files on the web site http://www.gnucash.org/doc/
22:46:20 <TommyT> sorry that link is broken.
22:46:32 <TommyT> go to www.gnucash.org and follow the links to the doc
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23:04:57 <warlord> @op
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23:24:25 <jeffsf> I'm working through build problems on OS X — down to libsoup
23:24:48 <jeffsf> Any hints at resolving:
23:24:51 <jeffsf> File "/Users/gnucash-build/gnucash-stable/lib/gobject-introspection/giscanner/sourcescanner.py", line 302, in _parse
23:24:51 <jeffsf> proc.stdin.write('#ifndef %s\n' % (define, ))
23:24:51 <jeffsf> IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
23:24:51 <jeffsf> make[3]: *** [Soup-2.4.gir] Error 1
23:27:04 <warlord> Eww. Python
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