2015-03-07 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:21:43 <fell> I see in macros/ a bunch of *ax*.m4 files. should they be added to .gitignore or the git index?
03:23:07 <jralls> fell: They're already in git. That's how they got there.
03:23:45 <fell> but some are marked as changed.
03:23:57 <fell> I didn't change them.
03:24:13 <jralls> fell: What branch are you on?
03:24:19 <fell> maint
03:25:06 <jralls> Are they marked as changed or as untracked?
03:25:58 <fell> In Eclipse they have a question mark:
03:26:17 <fell> ax_cxx_compile_stdcxx_11.m4
03:27:07 <fell> m4_ax_boost_base.m4, m4_ax_check_compile_flag.m4
03:27:56 <jralls> I don't use Eclipse, so I don't know whether the ? means changed or untracked. But those files all belong to master, so in maint they shouldn't be there at all. Run git clean.
03:28:10 <fell> Untracked is more precise than changed
03:28:19 <jralls> Then autogen.sh.
03:49:29 <fell> jralls: still untracked
03:54:38 <jralls> fell: Did you run `git clean -f` from the command line or do the Eclipse equivalent (assuming that there is one)? From the command line git clean does nothing without the -f.
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03:56:13 <jralls> Got to go.
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03:56:37 <fell> that was it.
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04:50:56 <fell> configure dislikes libgoffice-0.10
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05:10:25 <fell> the path is /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/libgoffice-0.10.pc; configure checks for libgoffice-0.8 >= 0.7.0 (nice expression)
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05:13:32 <fell> jralls_afk, do you know any reason for "libgoffice-0.8 >= 0.7.0"
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05:24:28 <fell> got it! found your mail from last year
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06:44:13 <fell> src/import-export/aqb/test is not tracked
06:50:36 <fell> , but files inside are with exception of makefile.in ???
06:56:38 <fell> ignore my last line - it is wrong.
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07:01:42 <jralls> fell: libgoffice is used for some support functions for the CSV importer and exporter.
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08:38:18 <hinnerk> hi
08:38:59 <fell> Moin!
08:39:07 <hinnerk> moin :)
08:39:31 <hinnerk> frage: kann ich irgendwie einen "breakpoint" setzen, um die werte in den reports zu betrachten?
08:40:14 <hinnerk> ich würde gerne etwas mit den budgets spielen.
08:40:42 <fell> Irgendwie sicher, aber ich weiß nicht wie.
08:41:00 <hinnerk> z.b. zwei optionen einfügen: Carry Over of Difference: Yes/ No und Resetting of Budgets every X periods.
08:41:14 <hinnerk> und dann würde ich eben gerne die werte manipulieren, dementsprechend.
08:41:20 <hinnerk> soltle eigneltich nicht allzu schwer sein.
08:41:32 <hinnerk> nur wenn man noch nie die datenstrukturen gesehen hat....
08:41:41 <hinnerk> dann ist das nicht ganz so einfach :)
08:41:59 <fell> Es ist 30 Jahre her, daß ich emacs ernsthaft benutzt habe - ich hab die ganzen hotkeys vergessen.
08:42:19 <hinnerk> dachte eigentlich nicht, dass das eine emacs frage wäre :)
08:43:01 <fell> Da war ja LISP integriert.
08:43:56 <fell> Für Eclipse gibt es ein Modul schemeway, aber ich habe das noch nicht ernsthaft getestet.
08:45:22 <fell> Und wenn Du dir die einfach auf der Konsole ausgeben läßt?
08:45:32 <hinnerk> wie mache ich das am besten?
08:45:39 <hinnerk> sorry, stehe schlichtweg ganz am anfang...
08:45:59 <hinnerk> hast du irgendeine spezielle entwicklungsumgebung, die du benutzt?
08:48:40 <fell> Emacs nehmen die Profis, andere Eclipse.
08:49:41 <fell> Meine Maschine hängt grad was und ich muß jetzt essen, sorry.
08:51:30 <hinnerk> ok, guten hunger.
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09:04:48 <hinnerk> back to english, just in case :)
09:05:18 <hinnerk> So I added a few "display" lines to the budget.scm standard report, so that I can take a look at the values.
09:05:29 <hinnerk> only, when I start gnucash, it immediately crashes.
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09:06:22 <hinnerk> http://pastebin.com/5AjVYawW
09:06:50 <hinnerk> here'S the code that I changed in budget.scm
09:08:04 <hinnerk> http://pastebin.com/CJy1v2gw
09:08:45 <hinnerk> Sorry about these really basic questions, but without them, I just don't have a real starting point.
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10:10:15 <hinnerk> question: I have an installed version of gnucash (2.6.3) and a newly built one (2.6.99). Will both use whatever is in .gnucash?
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10:22:15 <fell> usually yes.
10:24:06 <fell> So do not mess your real files by editing the with a version of gnucash-master!
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10:35:14 <fell> hinnerk: about your stack trace: I am wondering, why ...src/... is referenced.
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10:50:01 <TommyT> Greetings! Are wiki.gnucash.org logins throttled? I find pages load fast UNLESS I'm logged in
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11:42:43 <fell> TommyT: I watch only a slight latency on the first call. Perhaps you has been there at the same time as the google.bot
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11:46:44 <fell> Hinnerk are your ubuntu issues resolved? TommyT wrote that section in Building.
11:53:11 <TommyT> fell: I've noticed the slowdowns several times in the past week or so
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11:53:48 <TommyT> the pages were getting slower and slower till I opened another browser (that wasn't logged in) then when I logged in it stalled
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11:54:12 <fell> Perhaps warlord can review the logs.
11:54:26 <TommyT> I'm talking EXTREME not just latency
11:54:42 <TommyT> Chromium keeps churning away, but FIrefox times out
11:54:51 <TommyT> I just came back to the computer so I will try again
11:56:23 <TommyT> yes it's still doing it... I wonder if it's switching to a different port for logins or something
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11:58:37 <fell> I am usually auto logged in and have a few instances of firefox open - editing one and view references in the others.
11:58:53 <TommyT> hmmm... ping says I'm getting 50% packet loss
11:59:09 <TommyT> the ones that come through are fast but 50% are gone
12:00:13 <fell> I have no loss. Trace the ping!
12:00:35 <TommyT> ya.... new computer and I have to install some stuff
12:05:11 <TommyT> fell: it turns out tracepath is installed by default (I keep looking for the old traceroute)
12:05:40 <TommyT> weird though... the replies bounce around and then "too many hops"
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12:06:07 <TommyT> The last one says "CAMBRIDGE," but warlord is in Atlanta area now, isn't he?
12:06:48 <TommyT> First thing I'll do is reboot the router (running Tomato)
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12:17:55 <TommyT> OK finally I'm back
12:19:17 <TommyT> ping packet loss even worse
12:19:25 <TommyT> to wiki.gnucash.org
12:19:36 <TommyT> (responds as code.gnucash.org)
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12:20:33 <TommyT> I'm only getting packet loss to gnucash.org
12:20:50 <TommyT> not to google or to a server I rent in Texas
12:21:52 <TommyT> oh I forgot the server is actually in Atlanta now
12:22:42 <TommyT> I am out of my league, though... trying a few other things
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12:34:16 <TommyT> I will leave irc up but I'll be away for awhile. If anyone has network packet loss diagnosis suggestions please weigh in!
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14:16:17 <fell> TommyT: mtr or similar should show you wher the bottleneck sits.
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15:28:36 <warlord> TommyT: run mtr -- tell me where you see the loss.
15:28:55 <warlord> i'm not seeing any loss leaving my network.
15:31:32 <TommyT> warlord: cool! mtr is new to me. yes all the loss is after the packets get to Boston1.level3.net and twdx.net
15:32:08 <TommyT> ae-1-5.bar1.Boston1.Level3.net 97% loss
15:32:23 <TommyT> last OK hop before there is 64.128.212.66
15:32:58 <warlord> so the loss is the link from twtelecom to level3
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15:33:29 <TommyT> I could open a ticket with my ISP...?
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15:36:02 <warlord> You could try. Is twtelecom your ISP?
15:36:20 <TommyT> no it's my city cable company. but they have good support
15:36:27 <warlord> Or you could contact TWTC Peering
15:36:31 <TommyT> I will call them. they may not know what to do on a Saturday
15:41:21 <TommyT> yeah, the weekend folks are nice but barely know what I'm talking bout
15:42:26 <TommyT> twtelecom peering has a phone number. can't hurt
15:46:09 <TommyT> twtelecom won't talk to me... looks like my ISP is their customer so I'll need to open a ticket through them
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16:00:27 <warlord> ok
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16:22:59 <TommyT> warlord: email sent to my ISP (to be read Monday) so they can open a ticket with twtelecom. Thank you for your help!
16:29:03 <warlord> TommyT: you're welcome. I presume you sent them a copy of the mtr output?
16:29:41 <TommyT> warlord: yes. the hard part was remembering how to ctrl-s so I could copy it
16:29:53 <TommyT> off the terminal
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17:14:21 <warlord> lol. yeah.
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