2015-01-28 GnuCash IRC logs
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11:26:00 <edgy> Hi, I am trying the fancy invoice, my invoice only has three items so I expected three rows but I got around 24 rows. the others are empty. is this a bug?
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11:33:07 <cphuntington97> "If you use gnucash, you will be rewarded 8 fold!" It's true!
11:34:13 <warlord> edgy: nope. that's as designed.
11:34:51 <edgy> sorry sirs, I don't understand, why one needs all the additional bonus rows?
11:35:23 <warlord> edgy: it's how the fancy invoice works. if you dont want that try a different invoice report.
11:37:21 <edgy> ok, I tried the printable invoice but it didn't show my phone, fax, url, company registry, ..., so how can I dispaly all these but still have no bonus rows?
11:39:49 <warlord> edgy: hack the scheme
11:41:33 <edgy> warlord: with all your great work, isn't it better if all the invoices have all those fields by default without a need for hacking?
11:41:55 <warlord> your definition of better != other people's definition of better.
11:42:06 <warlord> patches always welcome.
11:42:36 <warlord> 256/8
11:44:06 <gjanssens> edgy: IMO there should only be one invoice report that is sufficiently customizable to fit most user's needs
11:44:19 <gjanssens> However I don't have time to fix that
11:44:35 <warlord> The e-guile based Tax Invoice is close..
11:44:38 <edgy> gjanssens: exactly, I was afraid to say so ;)
11:44:58 <gjanssens> The reason there are 4 reports currently is that three of them were from a time where gnucash couldn't handle css formatting
11:45:17 <gjanssens> So to have a different layout a new report had to be created :(
11:45:22 <gjanssens> warlord: indeed.
11:45:51 <edgy> what's the mostly used one? (from those that uses css)
11:46:13 <gjanssens> There's only one that uses css: tax invoice
11:47:27 <edgy> where is this tax invoice?
11:47:47 <edgy> ok, found it
11:49:14 <gjanssens> edgy: to be complete this report is also used to create that Austalian tax invoice, simply be presetting some options
11:50:14 <edgy> gjanssens: what do you mean by Australian tax invoice? something used by government?
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11:51:52 <warlord> edgy: required by govt
11:51:52 <gjanssens> edgy: no used by Australian people
11:52:12 <edgy> the tax invoice looks good for me, if I need to customize it, where do I need to look? any tutorial?
11:52:13 <gjanssens> That report requires some different fields or text
11:52:33 <gjanssens> edgy: depends on what you want to customize
11:52:52 <gjanssens> If it's just the presentation, you can probably get away with a personalized css file
11:53:07 <edgy> gjanssens: where shall i save the css file?
11:53:41 <gjanssens> Strictly speaking wherever you want. You can specify the full path to it in the report's options
11:54:28 <gjanssens> I believe if you put it in your .gnucash directory it may override the default css file
11:54:36 <gjanssens> (haven't tested that though)
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11:59:46 <edgy> I tried to put a taxinvoice.css in .gnucash but that didn't work, I will specify the full path and check ...
12:01:39 <edgy> I now specified the full path $HOME/.gnucash/taxinvoice.css but still nothing affected
12:02:22 <warlord> Did you literally use "$HOME" or did you use /home/....?
12:02:26 <gjanssens> Did you litterally type "$HOME" or the expanded version "/home/<username>"
12:02:36 <gjanssens> gnucash will not expand variables in path names
12:02:44 <gjanssens> there is no shell involved
12:03:26 <edgy> gjanssens: I expanded $HOME
12:03:27 <edgy> I tested by putting a line h1.coyname { text-align: center; }
12:03:48 <edgy> but the company name is not centered
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12:05:42 <edgy> tried things like background-color: yellow; but still nothing
12:06:06 <edgy> I don't want to touch the default /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/taxinvoice.css
12:07:01 <gjanssens> edgy: what version of gnucash do you have ?
12:07:24 <edgy> gjanssens: 2.6.5
12:08:16 <edgy> I even now edited the /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/taxinvoice.css and it didn't take effect
12:10:39 <warlord> Did you try to restart gnucash?
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12:16:25 <edgy> warlord: I did modified the /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/taxinvoice.css by putting background-color: green; inside the h1.coyname, saved, restarted gnucash but nothing changed
12:17:40 <gjanssens> edgy: try exporting your report to html and load it in a browser: do you see the changes there ?
12:17:48 <edgy> ok, now it worked, I found I need to specify the full path
12:20:06 <gjanssens> ok
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12:20:24 <warlord> Oh, you weren't doing that? You were specifying a relative path?
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12:23:09 <edgy> warlord: for /home/username path I put the full but didn't restarted gnucash, then I edited the default taxinvoice thinking it's hardcoded already hence the confusion
12:23:58 <edgy> I exported to html and it's strange that the code is using nobr which is deprecated
12:24:07 <edgy> this is an easy fix ;)
12:27:16 <edgy> I still belive having the default taxinvoice.css distributed by the gnucash should be read by default which is not the case now, then why do you package it?
12:30:33 <edgy> to fix the nobr I guess we can just add a class nobr {white-space: nowrap;} and use it instead of the nobr, no?
12:40:03 <edgy> thanks warlord, and gjanssens_ for the help. really appreciate it. bye
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15:26:23 <keret> I have multiple bank accounts for which I wish to import transactions. The import dialog asks for a transfer account the first time it is run.
15:26:49 <keret> Can this transfer account be changed anywhere after it has been set the first time?
15:27:29 <keret> Is it at all possible to set up multiple accounts in gnc to have a separate transfer account for each bank account for which I wish to import transactions?
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15:29:50 <keret> If not, what is a sensible workflow for importing each separate dataset? Looking for ideas on how others go about it.
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15:50:48 <keret> I had set up separate suspense accounts to receive each dataset but my testing so far suggests this is not going to work.
15:52:13 <warlord> keret: when you import transactions you first need to assign the import account to a GNC account (E.g. the Bank Account). Then for each transaction you need to assign the transfer account for the income/expense..
15:52:30 <warlord> If you import multiple accounts each account you import must map to a different gnucash account.
16:05:21 <keret> warlord: I am able to assign the import account only the first time I import a data file, not each subsequent time for each subsequent data file. Is this the correct behavior? If so, how do I map each imported account to a different gnucash account?
16:05:53 <keret> warlord: Also, one assigned, is it possible to change a previously assigned import account?
16:06:44 <keret> ...once assigned...
16:07:59 <warlord> I presume you're importing OFX
16:08:27 <keret> Yes, was testing using downloaded OFX files.
16:08:52 <warlord> once assigned, no, there's no easy way to reassign it; you would need to import an OFX file with a "bogus" account and then select the account from which you want to reassign the ofx.
16:10:08 <warlord> as for why multiple downloads wont ask again, all I can imagine is that it's the same account id
16:10:23 <keret> So for example I could set up an "OFX import" account, import a data file to that account, reassign/rebalance transactions in that account, rinse and repeat?
16:10:51 <warlord> Every time gnucash sees a new OFX Account it will ask you to assign it to a gnucash account.
16:11:51 <keret> Ok, thanks. Will test some more and let you know if I'm not seeing this intended behavior.
16:12:38 <keret> On the issue of changing a previously assigned import account, is there not anywhere in the gnucash file where this is saved and can later be changed?
16:17:52 <warlord> gnucash stores the ofx account info in the GNC account. a GNC account can only hold a single OFX Acct ID.
16:18:05 <warlord> There's nothing in the UI to reset it.
16:18:10 <warlord> All you can do from the UI is overwrite it
16:19:32 <keret> Hence the idea of importing another OFX file with a "bogus" account id to overwrite the previously assigned account id. Thanks for the explanation.
16:20:16 <warlord> right
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16:26:52 <keret> While I am on this topic, is the same behavior expected for other formats (qif, csv)?
16:31:00 <warlord> not quite..
16:31:15 <warlord> (sorry, gotta run for a bit)
16:36:36 <keret> No problem. Will test at my end. Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
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16:40:01 <bozonius> Thanks for your help with A/P. I assume things work pretty much the same for A/R. No creating accounts, etc
16:40:50 <bozonius> So I created an A/R account manually (mistake to do that?) then tried to use the pull down to post an invoice. But no accounts list; the pulldown is empty/no choices.
16:41:28 <bozonius> So does gnucash want me to create the A/R account there, in "post invoice" and if it does, will that show up again for future post invoice?
16:45:02 <bozonius> I just went ahead and did it, creating a fresh A/R account with similar name (which I can fix later after I delete the original one I created)
16:45:23 <bozonius> Is this a bug -- or just a source of some confusion?
16:45:49 <bozonius> It all works, of course! :^)
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17:37:56 <warlord> bozonius:my guess: currency difference?
17:38:06 <warlord> (or you didn't use the proper account type?)
17:44:29 <keret> Warlord: In the transaction matching dialog of the various importers, what do the columns A, U+R and R represent?
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19:06:52 <warlord> keret: Add, Update+Reconcile, Reconcile
19:31:41 <bozonius> warlord: Sorry, was off to see one of my "customers"... heheheh -- the whole reason I am doing this, actually.K
19:32:10 <bozonius> a currency difference? OK, I'll look around, but not sure where I'd see that
19:32:49 <warlord> bozonius: in the account dialog
19:33:05 <warlord> It'll show you the currency (and account type) of the accounts.
19:33:18 <warlord> Either the type is not A/Receivable, or the currency isn't correct for your customer.
19:34:18 <bozonius> The type IS A/R, and the currency is USD throughout my own use. I don't deal with anything but USD
19:36:06 <warlord> The one you created manually or the one created through the 'new' button on the post dialog?
19:36:50 <bozonius> both
19:36:57 <bozonius> (honest)
19:38:14 <bozonius> I have another question, on a different topic, also...
19:39:34 <bozonius> Is there a way to add notes to a job AFTER I create that job? I see the opportunity in the invoice dialog, but I'd like to be able to change the notes at any time, not just when I invoice
19:39:39 <bozonius> Is that possible?
19:40:55 <bozonius> The "edit job" dialog does not give me access to notes about that job.
19:41:13 <warlord> I'm not sure what Job Notes you're talking about.
19:50:25 <bozonius> Business->Customer->Find Job
19:51:06 <bozonius> When I create a new job, it has a place for notes. After that, I don't see a way to update them.
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21:53:14 <bozonius> any way to delete an invoice?
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