2015-01-27 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:01:48 <neilv> i'm modifying a report script, and want to reduce the number of decimal places that is used for XAG currency, from 6 to 2. currently it uses: (gnc:monetary->string mny)
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10:11:35 <warlord> neilv: so what's the question?
10:11:56 <warlord> The printer uses your configuration for # of decimal places.
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10:31:10 <neilv> the accounts tab takes the number of decimal places on the foreign currency from the account. this report seems to take the number of decimal places from the currency type (which i can see in the securities editor, but the "fraction traded" control on the currency information dialog is greyed-out)
10:39:42 <warlord> Yes, you cannot change the fraction traded of currencies; that's controlled by the ISO definition of the currency. And why would you want to change that?
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10:57:23 <Ahmuck> i need a report for a specific category/account that has many subaccounts under it. is there a way to print a report similar to a directory tree with the listed entries?
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11:00:31 <warlord> Ahmuck: I dont understand -- you want a report that shows the expanded CoA??
11:03:03 <Ahmuck> for example, Auto
11:03:30 <Ahmuck> Auto with subcategories, Gasoline, Oil, Transmission Fluid, Brake Fluid, Tires, Etc.
11:03:49 <Ahmuck> So Auto is broke down into seperate CoA. is there a way to print just that section?
11:04:06 <warlord> Ahmuck: print what? Just the account names? What data are you trying to print?
11:04:35 <Ahmuck> names and totals and line item amounts
11:04:43 <Ahmuck> er line item descriptions
11:05:06 <Ahmuck> i know that i can get the entire year in a line item report. but i'm looking to check the entries.
11:06:02 <warlord> Ahmuck: if you just want names and balances, then the Account Summary Report. If you actually want the transaction data, you have a few choices: You can perform an "Open Subaccounts" and then print that out via a Register Report. Or you can run the Transaction Report and just choose the tree you want.
11:06:35 <Ahmuck> yes, that is what i want, a transaction report on a specific tree
11:07:01 <Ahmuck> ah got it. thank you
11:07:02 <warlord> then just select the tree you want
11:10:51 <Ahmuck> hrm, still not getting it. something like account summary for an account and child accounts
11:11:05 <Ahmuck> showing each transaction?
11:12:34 <Ahmuck> is there a way to print the ledger?
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11:14:49 <jralls> gjanssens: After you signed off last night I confirmed my suspicion about finding guile with a tarball. Since I built the tarball on F18 which doesn't have guile-2, it searches for an executable named "guile". On F21 that fails if only guile-1.8 is installed.
11:15:36 <warlord> jralls: remind me: why do we need to find the guile executable again?
11:15:44 <jralls> gjanssens: Worse, if both guile 1.8 and 2.0 are installed it finds the library for guile 1.8 and the executable for guile-2.0.
11:16:06 <jralls> warlord: It's used in the makefiles for a variety of things.
11:16:25 <jralls> Compiling on 2.0, but also for running the old tests.
11:16:43 <warlord> I wonder if we could just build our own 'gnc-guile' using libguile?
11:16:50 <warlord> ... and use that internally?
11:17:16 <jralls> Or more correctly setting up the environment for old tests.
11:18:16 <jralls> warlord: That would require the guile CLI source either as a dependency or imported into our own tree.
11:19:40 <warlord> But what does the build CLI do that we cannot simply emulate? Can't we just pass stdin into the libguile interpreter code? I wouldn't think it would be a lot of code to implement 'main' around libguile.
11:19:56 <warlord> (and yes, that 'main' would need to be in our source tree)
11:22:30 <jralls> warlord: Dunno, beyond parsing and making appropriate calls for arguments. I'm looking for it now. Unfortunately they don't seem to have put it somewhere obvious.
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11:24:08 <Ahmuck> in the old dos days we could print a directory tree and all the files under it on a piece of paper
11:24:22 <warlord> this isn't a file system
11:24:38 <warlord> but yes, you can print a register .... Run a Register Report.
11:24:58 <Ahmuck> a register of only a specific account
11:25:13 <warlord> No, it's not.
11:25:15 <Ahmuck> so in the US we have an IRS Form SF
11:25:18 <warlord> "Open Subaccounts"
11:26:46 <Ahmuck> for farming which we can break down into tax deductible sub accounts
11:27:02 <Ahmuck> the only account i need is that SF account and their sub accounts
11:27:15 <Ahmuck> i did find out how to print the entire registry which i am doing now
11:27:49 * Ahmuck grumbles and thinks tax entities only job is to create stress
11:28:56 <jralls> warlord: It's pretty small. main just calls scm_boot_guile(argc, argv, inner_main, 0); and inner_main() just calls scm_shell(argc, argv);.
11:29:03 <Ahmuck> ok, in the accounts view i can see X Farms and below it different subaccount with thier totals
11:29:20 <Ahmuck> so it's like a dos directory tree
11:30:06 <warlord> jralls: right, so perhaps we just build our own using libguile so we don't have to worry about what the distro called "guile"
11:30:23 <warlord> Ahmuck: right click on the parent, choose "Open Subaccounts"
11:30:29 <Ahmuck> that i did
11:30:36 <Ahmuck> and i have an account register
11:30:51 <Ahmuck> but it is line item without sub accounts
11:31:14 <jralls> warlord: We could pretty easily do that somewhere. The guild (compiler) script is a little more involved but it's a more unique name so we can just search the path for it (which is all that the GUILE_PROGS macro does).
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11:32:52 <warlord> Ahmuck: Perhaps you can point me to a screen shot of what you're actually looking for, because frankly your questions aren't making anhy sense.
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12:06:26 <gjanssens> jralls: perhaps we should revive the old legacy guile M4 macro that was used once ?
12:06:39 <gjanssens> I found it by chance last week in macros
12:07:05 <gjanssens> Was about to delete it, but perhaps that can be improved to find the correct guile/guild instance ?
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12:10:19 <jralls> I think I prefer Derek's idea of having our own interpreter. The reason is that F21 names the 1.8 libguile that but the executable guile-1.8, and names the 2.0 libguile libguile.so.2.0 and the executable guile. That makes it much too easy to get the wrong combination in a case when building from the tarball and when both are installed.
12:11:01 <jralls> If we just get the library from pkg-config and build our own interpreter from it then we always have the right one.
12:11:59 <gjanssens> Ok
12:12:31 <gjanssens> That presumes of course that we require the library and the executable to be the same version
12:12:44 <warlord> gjanssens: I think we do
12:12:51 <gjanssens> warlord: why ?
12:13:28 <gjanssens> (playing devil's advocate here)
12:14:00 <gjanssens> It probably depends on how we write our scripts used in the makefiles
12:14:49 <gjanssens> Or maybe not...
12:14:54 <warlord> I dont recall why, but I seem to remember there being an issue.
12:15:36 <gjanssens> The potential issue I see is when tests are written in scheme and they load gnc-modules which in turn load scm files again
12:16:06 <jralls> gjanssens: Yup.
12:16:08 <gjanssens> that may give conflicts if the guile executable to run the script is not the same version as the guile library used to load the scm files
12:16:17 <gjanssens> from within gnc-modules
12:16:53 <gjanssens> So yes, that's a good reason to build our own interpreter
12:17:08 <gjanssens> Hopefully that works with guild as well
12:17:09 <jralls> gjanssens: No, it will crash. Spectacularly. The linker will have two symbols with the same names.
12:17:17 <gjanssens> Ok
12:17:20 <jralls> Linkers don't like that.
12:17:51 <gjanssens> Got to go again for tonight... (it's a busy week here...)
12:17:54 <gjanssens> See you later
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12:18:00 <jralls> 'night.
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