2014-12-12 GnuCash IRC logs
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12:44:25 <lmat> @op
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12:46:12 <kimmo2> @op
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12:46:18 <kimmo2> bleh
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12:54:59 <warlord> hahah
12:58:21 <kimmo2> that's right bitches, we're trying to hax0r you
12:58:25 <warlord> :-P
13:00:24 <kimmo2> once I get r00t, I'm going to bring back account balance line graphs!
13:00:28 <kimmo2> take that
13:00:35 <kimmo2> for taking it out of 1.6 !
13:00:40 <kimmo2> I'm still pissed
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13:36:04 <warlord> yell at the Guppi people who decided to abandon their project.
13:36:12 <warlord> ... and not port it to gnome 2
13:37:04 <Unhammer> is there a way to get the "next available reference number"
13:37:08 <Unhammer> for a new entry?
13:38:15 <warlord> Unhammer: you mean like hitting the + key in the num column?>
13:40:54 <Unhammer> that almost worked
13:42:25 <Unhammer> except the number it gave me was already taken by an entry
13:43:31 <Unhammer> maybe my experimentation-book is messed up
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13:51:49 <warlord> Unhammer: maybe.. dunno. screen shot?
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13:53:09 <Unhammer> screen not tall enough to catch both numbers
13:54:17 <warlord> are the numbers somehow in a random order?
13:54:48 <warlord> (it's possble that the + will increment from the last-entered number.. dont recall)
13:58:15 <gjanssens> That's indeed how it works...
14:03:39 <Unhammer> aha, yeah they are in a fairly random order :)
14:10:44 <warlord> Unhammer: well that would explain why you're having issues. you need to input them in order.. or at least the UI expects you to input them in order. It's designed for a Check#, which is a monotonically increasing number, so you'd never input check #5 before you input check #4.
14:15:28 <Unhammer> makes sense ..
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15:42:57 <ArtGravity> I updated my billing terms in gnucash and I don't see the change reflected when I view an invoice. Any ideas what else I may need to do?
15:48:18 <warlord> ArtGravity: you need to reset it in the invoice.
15:48:24 <warlord> ... by re-selecting it.
15:48:34 <warlord> Click on "Edit Invoice", then go and re-select.
15:48:41 <ArtGravity> unpost, edit, re-post ?
15:49:03 <warlord> Uh..... You changed a posted invoice?
15:49:08 <warlord> Why would you want to do that?
15:49:30 <warlord> (yes, to make *ANY* changes to a posted invoice you must first unpost it)
15:50:00 <ArtGravity> Because when I posted it, I had no language offering online payment with a convenience fee
15:50:24 <ArtGravity> For some reason the language is present when I edit the terms, but it does not appear on the invoive
15:51:20 <ArtGravity> I'm not making any changes to the numbers on a posted invoice, I just to update a notice on an overdue invoice to reflect the new payment option.
15:52:44 <ArtGravity> Even editing an invoice that i just posted day, it has no effect.
15:53:15 <ArtGravity> I still get the 3 lines from my old terms, but the new line of text that should appear as the new line 3 does not appear.
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16:03:54 <warlord> ArtGravity: it's been a while; I don't remember if terms had backing-store for stability.
16:04:20 <ArtGravity> I think I found a fix
16:04:28 <ArtGravity> You were on the money with the edit
16:05:00 <ArtGravity> I may have just been adjusting the term from the drop down on the main invoice screen rather than using the edit dialog
16:05:18 <warlord> Ah...
16:05:24 <warlord> Yes, that probably wouldn't work.
16:05:54 <ArtGravity> It was safe to ignore that selector and leave it blank. It in turn updated from the edit dialog.
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16:10:50 <warlord> ArtGravity: right.
16:10:54 <warlord> Glad you got it working.
16:11:03 <warlord> (as I remembered, there was a backing store)
16:11:35 <ArtGravity> Have I mentioned lately how much I love gnucash? <g>
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16:14:16 <warlord> :)
16:14:18 <warlord> You're welcome
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16:16:27 <GreatEmerald> Is there a way to make invoices display two currencies at the same time?
16:20:22 <warlord> GreatEmerald: no
16:20:26 <warlord> (at least, not that I know of)
16:21:40 <GreatEmerald> warlord: Even by messing with invoice templates?
16:25:03 <warlord> GreatEmerald: well, lets ask this differently: in what way do you have multiple currencies in your invoice such that you want them printed simultaneously?
16:25:46 <GreatEmerald> Well, here in Lithuania, it's currently a transitional period from the local currency LTL to Euros
16:26:10 <GreatEmerald> So it's currently the norm to have both LTL and EUR printed alongside each other
16:27:13 <GreatEmerald> Thus it would be enough to have an additonal column that would be (base currecy) * (exchange rate)
16:34:19 <GreatEmerald> (As an aside, one of the lead developers of GnuCash being from Lithuanian descent is pretty awesome. I never knew that before :) Hi linas!)
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16:39:56 <warlord> Hmmm...
16:40:00 <warlord> gjanssens: what do you think?
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17:29:19 <gjanssens> warlord GreatEmerald: I think you'll have to alter the invoice report(s) if you want a second column
17:29:36 <gjanssens> I don't know the invoice reports in detail
17:30:39 <gjanssens> However the tax invoice report is probably the easiest to adapt since it has separated the data gathering from the presentation code
17:31:18 <gjanssens> I presume the conversion rate between LTL and EUR is fixed during the transitional period ?
17:31:49 <gjanssens> Then you can cheat a bit and just hardcode the calculated value instead of looking it up in the price tables
17:31:54 <GreatEmerald> Yeap, it's fixed
17:32:02 <gjanssens> That would simplify the work of changing the reports a lot
17:33:24 <gjanssens> As a starting point to change a report you can look at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports
17:33:39 <gjanssens> That's all help I can offer for tonight as I have to go now.
17:33:42 <gjanssens> Good luck
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17:36:18 <GreatEmerald> I see. Well, that's at least something
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17:36:53 <GreatEmerald> Though I was hoping at this point there would be more HTML and less Scheme... The last time I tried hacking something on it, it didn't go all that well
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18:12:10 <GreatEmerald> Hm, granted, it does seem to have significantly more HTML and significantly less Guile than the last time I looked at it
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18:17:02 <GreatEmerald> And perhaps instead of making new columns, I can reuse the current ones (X Lt / Y €)
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18:51:55 <somethingrandom> hello people
18:52:23 <somethingrandom> i just read through the documentation, such a nice one. my head is spinning now though.
18:53:51 <somethingrandom> but how do i do multiple currencies? do i really have to create duplicate accounts for every currency?
18:54:30 <somethingrandom> (have one main bank account, but spend in different currencies...)
18:58:26 <jralls> somthingrandom: You need to read the tutorial again. Gnucash uses separate accounts for everything instead of having categories. You might also consider a book on basic bookkeeping if it's not clear from GnuCash's Tutorial and Concepts Guide.
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19:02:02 <jralls> So if you want to account for spending in different currencies then you'll need separate expense accounts by both currency and type. Suppose you buy books in both Euro and GBP. You'd have Expenses:Books:Euro and Expenses:Books:GBP; the Expenses:Books account would be a placeholder (no transactions would go directly into it) that would report the total spent on books in the File's default currency.
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19:09:08 <somethingrandom> jralls, thank you for your prompt reply. this is what i suspected, with the added detail about the placeholder account. i'll guess i'll add a foreign currency account as i spent money in that account...
19:10:44 <somethingrandom> i'm really excited to finally start using gnucash. it always looked so intimidating but isn't actually.
19:12:54 <ArtGravity> somethingrandom: I'll second your sentiment on using gnucash
19:13:06 <somethingrandom> ArtGravity, :)
19:14:05 <somethingrandom> i just imported 6 months of living in asia and am trying to merge it with my previous (very few) entries
19:22:19 <somethingrandom> still have to figure out the best way to import foreign currency transactions from gnucash android. plus managing multiple currencies in gnucash android, should i just transform an account to placeholder, and create sub accounts in the needed currencies and transfer the entries from the placeholder?
19:23:39 <ArtGravity> I wouldn't transfer entries from the placeholder so much as create a new placeholder and move the existing account under it.
19:25:35 <somethingrandom> ArtGravity, perfect, yeah, that sounds better, trying it now\
19:28:50 <somethingrandom> thank you guys, i'll sleep a bit, laters!
19:30:06 <warlord> somethingrandom: fwiw, if you only have a bank account in 1 currency then you don't necessarly need multiple currencies; just treat every expense, in whatever currency, as if it's in your home currency.
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22:28:10 <Auyuittuq> I've looked in the user manual, on-line help and googled but suspect that GnuCash doesn't provide a facility for defining a randomly recurring transaction template. An example would be purchases at a grocery store which would hit multiple expense accounts but would happen on a random basis. I'd like to define a transaction with the commonly used accounts for that transaction so I only have to pull it up, enter the appropriate
22:28:10 <Auyuittuq> amounts and post rather than having to pull up each account for the transaction every time I come back from the grocery store. Scheduled transactions in Gnucash doesn't appear to have that capability. I tried specifying "none" for frequency and was able to define the transaction but couldn't find a way to post it to the accounts. Any suggestions?
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