2014-12-07 GnuCash IRC logs
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15:10:35 <warlord> jralls: ping?
15:10:48 <jralls> warlord: Hi.
15:11:28 <warlord> Hey. Re:UINT64_MAX ... Do we #include <stdint.h> ?
15:14:25 <jralls> We sure do. The problem is that gcc-4.7's c++ directory has one that points to <cstdint> that gets found before the one in /usr/include.
15:16:13 <warlord> hmm.. maybe we should #include "/usr/include/stdint.h"? ;)
15:16:47 <jralls> It would have to be in a GCC version #ifdef wrapper.
15:16:54 <warlord> (maybe only do that if ......... yes.
15:18:01 <jralls> The gcc 4.8 and 4.9 stdint.h do the right thing, calling '#include next <stdint.h>'
15:19:33 <jralls> But #include </usr/include/stdint.h> doesn't work, either.
15:19:43 <jralls> Or maybe anyway.
15:21:45 <warlord> Try quotes, not brackets..
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15:22:11 <warlord> (I've honestly never tried using a rooted path in a #include, only relative paths)
15:23:07 <warlord> (er, gt/lt, not brackets)
15:26:50 <jralls> No difference, of course, since they only add pwd to the front of the search path. One of the most common, though harmless, mistakes in C is using quotes around headers that aren't located in pwd.
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15:31:13 <warlord> jralls: yep. so do this: #include "../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../usr/include/stdint.h"
15:31:36 <jralls> Umm, why?
15:32:59 <jralls> Note that if I say #include </usr/include/cstdint> I get an error because there is no /usr/include/cstdint, but I don't get that error for /usr/include/stdint.h.
15:38:16 <warlord> Ah, I misunderstood what was going on.. But still, what happens if you try it my way?
15:41:07 <jralls> No change.
15:42:31 <warlord> :(
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15:45:01 <warlord> jralls: what if you #define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS ?
15:45:20 <jralls> Way ahead of you there. It's not working.
15:45:27 <warlord> (make sure that gets defined before anything is #included in the source file --- or on the compiler line)
15:45:49 <jralls> I defined it right before the include statement.
15:46:06 <warlord> define it before *any* includes
15:46:20 <warlord> (its quite possible some other include file is including stdint.h, too, btw
15:49:01 <warlord> anyways, i gotta run. later all
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20:55:03 <lowprof> can anyone explain why the summary bar "Net Assets" field appears to include my credit card liabilities even when the balance is zero?
20:56:14 <lowprof> it looks like the summary bar net assests is factoring in all credit card charges instead of just the current credit card balance
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21:42:02 <lmat> lowprof: I don't understand.
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21:42:21 <lmat> lowprof: The liability balance includes the sum of all credit card changes...
21:42:42 <lmat> lowprof: So of course they'll all be reflected in net assets.
21:44:42 <lowprof> hi, thanks for the response
21:45:38 <lmat> lowprof: Glad I could be of assistance ;-)
21:46:10 <lowprof> yeah, in the summary bar the net assets field indicates a dollar amount that is total assets minus my credit card liabilities
21:46:58 <lowprof> but, the CC liabilities dollar amount shows all charges since I started tracking even though I've made CC payments which bring the CC liabilities to zero
21:47:36 <lowprof> simply put, i've paid off my credit card debt but the total is still being subtracted in the Net Assets field
21:47:56 <lowprof> weird... or maybe I just don't understand the math...
21:50:46 <lmat> lowprof: Ahh, I see, so the net assets field only takes into account CR to your credit card accounts, not DRs...
21:51:12 <lmat> lowprof: Do you have other liability accounts?
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22:15:18 <lowprof> under Liabilities I have two CC accounts...
22:16:03 <lowprof> it appears that the Liabilities total dollar value is an accumlation of all the charges i've made against both credit cards
22:16:26 <lowprof> but... that is not an accurate reflection of what I owe, only what i've charged to-date
22:17:19 <warlord> lowprof: and how are those not the same in your mind?
22:17:21 <lowprof> the Net Assets field is showing a dollar value that is exactly the difference between the Assets account total value and the Liabilities account
22:17:53 <lowprof> well, it's no longer a liability if I've paid it down or to zero, right
22:19:35 <warlord> lowprof: if you've paid it down to zero then the account would be zero, thereby still showing you what you owe. So in what way is that not accurate?
22:19:42 <lowprof> so, for clarification, Assets minus Liabilities equals Net Assets... yeah?
22:20:40 <lowprof> right, the balance would be zero but gnucash is showing a positive number under Liabilities indicative of all charges
22:20:59 <warlord> lowprof: then you didn't pay off the liability properly
22:21:22 <lowprof> that could be it... maybe I'm not accurately accounting for CC payments
22:22:17 <lowprof> little more info now that you have me thinking...
22:22:41 <warlord> payment of liability would be e.g. Bank -> CC
22:23:22 <lowprof> the Liabilities account is a Top Level Placeholder account with two CC sub-accounts
22:23:30 <warlord> right....
22:23:34 <warlord> you said that already
22:23:35 <lowprof> the CC sub-accounts reflect an accurate CC balance
22:24:19 <warlord> including payments?
22:24:38 <lowprof> yes
22:24:50 <warlord> the parent should be the sum of the current balances of those accounts.
22:25:20 <lowprof> which is what i would think also but it's actually a much bigger number
22:25:50 <lowprof> and it appears to be a running total of all charges although i've not added them all up
22:25:53 <warlord> Are there any other accounts under liabilities?
22:26:17 <lowprof> yeah, Accts Payable, which is zero, and Loans which is also zero
22:26:49 <warlord> Are there, perhaps, transactions directly into the Liabilities account?
22:27:53 <lowprof> there it is... thanks for pointing me in the right direction
22:28:04 <warlord> there you go. Enjoy
22:28:23 <lowprof> even though it's a placeholder account it appears that I put in an Equity Opening Balance in there when I first started using gnucash
22:29:02 <lowprof> greatly appreciated, been banging my head on the desk all afternoon trying to figure this out
22:29:40 <lowprof> i think it's an old car loan that i put in before i knew to setup sub-accounts for each loan
22:29:55 <lowprof> now i'll sleep much better tonight
22:32:58 <warlord> sleep well, then :)
22:33:40 <lowprof> thanks, luv it when all the numbers come together
22:34:08 <warlord> :)
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