2014-11-19 GnuCash IRC logs

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11:49:48 <sfrique> hello folks, its me again. I am trying to import some QIF file from my financisto (android app)
11:50:32 <sfrique> But some transactions have not double entry
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11:50:52 <sfrique> like when i open a account, how the value that it start should be "saved" in gnucash?
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11:54:34 <gjanssens> sfrique: are you looking for an opening balance ?
11:56:13 <sfrique> yeah, but the accoutn was imported
11:56:20 <sfrique> so it is showing as "unknow"
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11:57:05 <sfrique> unspecified*
12:00:25 <sfrique> what should i do to have tis value "right" ?
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12:09:26 <warlord> sfrique: The QIF importer should give you the option to map the Descriptions or Memos to Income/Expense accounts. Do these transactions not have that?
12:10:01 <warlord> (I have no idea how you could get the QIF importer to create non-balanced transactions)
12:10:02 <sfrique> i already made those steps
12:10:15 <sfrique> i think i know what to do
12:10:40 <sfrique> it should exists an account called "opening balance accoutns" right?
12:10:40 <warlord> Then I'm not sure what you mean by "But some transactions have not double entry"
12:11:19 <sfrique> the value that should be in "opened balance" is in unspecified i suppose
12:11:26 <warlord> Yes, when you start GnuCash you create your opening balances between all your Asset and Liability accounts by creating a transaction between those accounts and Equity:Opening Balance
12:11:59 <sfrique> i guess i don't see that account
12:12:16 <sfrique> i am not sure if the best approuch is trying to import this.. or just start from scratch
12:12:36 <sfrique> gnucash just frozen when i tried to auto clean
12:13:02 <warlord> sfrique: Did you start with the basic account tree?
12:13:24 <sfrique> commun accoutns and investiments
12:13:31 <warlord> As for importing or starting from scratch, that's up to you
12:13:43 <warlord> common accounts & investments should include Equity
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12:14:58 <sfrique> let me look for translations
12:15:45 <sfrique> i don't see it
12:16:16 <sfrique> "found it"
12:16:56 <sfrique> so i just move every entry to this right?
12:17:15 <warlord> All your opening balances, yes.
12:17:54 <sfrique> i have a small question
12:18:09 <sfrique> i have an account i imported with "10.000"
12:18:18 <sfrique> but the current value is 8.400
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12:19:03 <sfrique> what should i do, i really don't know where this money was spent i kept no records
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12:30:27 <sfrique> Another Question
12:30:36 <sfrique> i have a account for Place Holder called Food
12:30:56 <sfrique> And inside of if, Breakfast/ lunch/dinner etc
12:31:33 <sfrique> if i have an expense that does not fit any of those, should i create a Food -> Others or just place it in Food?
12:31:48 <warlord> thats completely up to you.
12:32:02 <sfrique> there is no best practice?
12:32:39 <warlord> you would have to ask an accountant that question.
12:32:55 <sfrique> that i sjust for my personal expenses
12:33:13 <sfrique> i might just leave in food then
12:33:43 <sfrique> i was just thinking if ganucash had a problem with having expeses is like a placeholder account
12:35:10 <warlord> Well, you will have to turn off the "placeholder" bit
12:35:27 <sfrique> it wasnt set because it was created at import
12:38:33 <sfrique> omg, i canot start from scrath =X i have entried comming from 2012
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12:40:19 <warlord> what do you mean, "cannot start from scrath[sic]"?
12:40:33 <sfrique> i was thinking of remove all my transactions
12:40:51 <sfrique> and just start with gnucash, with opening balances and start now on
12:40:52 <warlord> You can do that easily: File -> Export Accounts
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12:41:10 <warlord> You'll just have to manually add your opening balances
12:41:24 <warlord> So File -> Export Accounts; File -> Open; add O-Bs
12:41:35 <sfrique> i meant, i can't because i will lose so much "data" from past
12:42:16 <sfrique> i guess i am almost done
12:42:19 <warlord> ah, well that's what it means to "start from scratch" -- you ignore (lose) your history
12:42:26 <sfrique> yeah
12:42:53 <sfrique> i did not realized i had so much history
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12:46:34 <sfrique> how do i move atrasnaction to another account?
12:51:34 <jralls> sfrique: Change the account in the "Transfer" column. Have you read the Tutorial and Concepts Guide?
12:52:14 <sfrique> i have
12:52:25 <sfrique> but i just forgot most of "small stuff"
12:53:14 <sfrique> jralls, this you said is not exacly what i need
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12:53:33 <sfrique> i want to change the "origin"
12:53:46 <warlord> sfrique: it is what you need; you just need to "expand" the transaction so you can change the 'this' account too.
12:53:55 <sfrique> like when you "delete" a account
12:54:12 <sfrique> ohh
12:54:16 <warlord> another option is to "jump" to the other account, which swaps which account is in the 'transfer' column
12:54:51 <sfrique> warlord, i was doing that "jump" but it is a litle mess as i am trying to fix all
12:55:27 <warlord> Are you trying to move ALL transactions from one account into another?
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12:55:33 <sfrique> yeah
12:55:49 <sfrique> but can't delete, as it is a place holder
12:55:56 <warlord> Oh...
12:56:04 <sfrique> i might create a "new" place holder
12:56:07 <sfrique> should be easier
12:56:14 <sfrique> change the sub accounts
12:56:44 <warlord> Well, you can use View -> Auto Split Ledger to make it easier
12:57:32 <sfrique> yeah i am using it
12:57:53 <warlord> okay.
12:58:29 <sfrique> thanks a lot guys, i know i am being a litle anoying
12:58:33 <sfrique> not to say a lot =X
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15:15:39 <sfrique> income account is always getting higher values?
15:16:39 <sfrique> yeah.. same as expense..
15:17:06 <warlord> yes.
15:17:14 <sfrique> i have to get used to iy
15:17:30 <warlord> You can change that if you really want, but most people prefer to see accounts "increase" ...
15:17:40 <sfrique> it* i am used to only know what i expend
15:17:51 <sfrique> what do you mean?
15:19:01 <warlord> Edit -> Preferences -> Accounts -> Reverse Balanced Accounts
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15:23:40 <sfrique> thanks
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