2014-10-14 GnuCash IRC logs
00:02:19 *** aqua___ has quit IRC
00:05:46 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
00:05:47 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
00:05:47 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
00:11:36 *** gjanssens has joined #gnucash
00:11:37 *** gncbot sets mode: +o gjanssens
00:11:50 *** Krzysiek_K has joined #gnucash
00:50:18 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
00:50:48 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
00:50:48 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
01:29:49 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
01:29:52 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
01:29:52 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
01:54:48 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
01:54:48 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
01:54:49 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
02:09:18 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
02:09:48 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
02:09:49 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
02:15:25 *** fell_ has joined #gnucash
02:15:26 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell_
03:12:09 *** Jimraehl1 has left #gnucash
03:24:05 *** Jimraehl1 has joined #gnucash
03:29:20 *** O01eg has quit IRC
03:58:36 *** fell_ is now known as fell
04:04:46 *** wol has joined #gnucash
04:15:42 *** AndreeeCZ has joined #gnucash
04:28:03 *** himaxx has joined #gnucash
04:29:13 *** himaxx has quit IRC
04:37:43 *** wol has quit IRC
04:45:56 *** wol has joined #gnucash
05:01:55 *** mlncn-agaric has joined #gnucash
05:13:30 *** hhn11 has joined #gnucash
05:19:46 *** hhn10 has quit IRC
05:36:51 *** mlncn-agaric has quit IRC
05:39:23 *** wol has quit IRC
05:48:38 *** O01eg has joined #gnucash
05:56:16 *** mlncn-agaric has joined #gnucash
06:08:15 *** fell has quit IRC
06:19:35 *** fell has joined #gnucash
06:19:35 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell
06:34:05 *** warlord has quit IRC
06:34:55 *** andy has quit IRC
06:35:59 *** mlncn-agaric has quit IRC
06:38:47 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
06:38:48 *** gncbot sets mode: +o warlord
06:51:13 *** andy has joined #gnucash
06:55:17 *** rborbonth has joined #gnucash
06:56:15 <rborbonth> hello
06:57:14 <rborbonth> exit
06:57:16 *** rborbonth has quit IRC
06:59:02 *** mlncn-agaric has joined #gnucash
07:06:10 *** rborbonth has joined #gnucash
07:07:19 <rborbonth> warlord is there a way to mark a bill wich was paid and i unposted it to fix something to mark it as posted?
07:10:06 *** Hinnerk has joined #gnucash
07:10:11 <Hinnerk> Hi
07:10:22 <Hinnerk> I just installed 2.6.4-2
07:10:39 <Hinnerk> I had a loan problem in 2.6.4 and hoped that this would fix it.
07:11:16 <Hinnerk> however, while the parsing of the loan formulas now works without error message, the calculated interest and principal do not change over time.
07:11:31 <Hinnerk> So it still is not correct.
07:12:02 *** aqua___ has joined #gnucash
07:20:41 *** rborbonth has quit IRC
07:30:29 *** AndreeeCZ has quit IRC
07:35:03 <gjanssens> rborbonth: to mark it as posted you repost the bill
07:35:40 <gjanssens> rborbonth: if you meant mark it as paid, you can use "Assign as payment" on the payment transaction to link it back to the now reposted invoice
07:35:40 *** aqua___ has quit IRC
07:35:51 <gjanssens> Hinnerk: that's unfortunate
07:36:28 <gjanssens> Hinnerk: is there a bug report for this that gathers the details ?
07:37:00 <gjanssens> Hmm: rborbonth really should wait a little longer...
07:37:26 <gjanssens> @tell rborbonth to mark it as posted you repost the bill
07:37:26 <gncbot> gjanssens: The operation succeeded.
07:37:39 <gjanssens> @tell rborbonth if you meant mark it as paid, you can use "Assign as payment" on the payment transaction to link it back to the now reposted invoice
07:37:39 <gncbot> gjanssens: The operation succeeded.
07:38:15 <Hinnerk> not yet
07:38:28 <Hinnerk> I'm still wondering what's going on.
07:38:54 <Hinnerk> I think it may be related to it starting in the past (first occurence: 01.08.2014)?
07:39:18 <Hinnerk> Well, I did enter correct loans in the past, but it has been a while. Not sure what version that was.
07:44:11 <Hinnerk> Since I tried already several times to enter the scheduled transaction, deleted it again, reentered it, etc. - is it possible that there is some trigger "crashed", such that the index of the formula is not advanced anymore?
07:44:24 <Hinnerk> Could this be helped by using a new account?
07:48:08 <Hinnerk> Trying the wizzard again:
07:48:24 <Hinnerk> If I enter as starting date 01.08.2014 and as length 240 months.
07:48:51 <Hinnerk> What should I enter in remaining months? It automatically gets filled with 237. SHould it be 240?
07:58:55 <warlord> Hinnerk: it depends on whether you want the aug, sept, and oct trnsactions created
07:59:03 <Hinnerk> yes, I do
07:59:12 <Hinnerk> Apparently I just got it working...
07:59:19 <Hinnerk> still checking.
08:00:10 <Hinnerk> is it possible to add some constant to the formula?
08:00:19 <Hinnerk> e.g. the result is off by a few cents.
08:06:01 <Hinnerk> worked.
08:06:39 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
08:06:40 <Hinnerk> So maybe it was just a mess up with the "Remaining Months" setting.
08:23:54 <warlord> Could be
08:31:01 *** rborbonth has joined #gnucash
08:34:07 <rborbonth> sorry gjanssens I got disconected bc i stood from my chair, not from desperation
08:34:08 <gncbot> rborbonth: Sent 56 minutes ago: <gjanssens> to mark it as posted you repost the bill
08:34:09 <gncbot> rborbonth: Sent 56 minutes ago: <gjanssens> if you meant mark it as paid, you can use Assign as payment on the payment transaction to link it back to the now reposted invoice
08:34:55 <rborbonth> I appreciate your answer
08:35:04 <rborbonth> I looked for it in the log
08:40:13 *** AndreeeCZ has joined #gnucash
08:47:54 *** hhn11 has quit IRC
08:50:16 *** AndreeeCZ has quit IRC
08:58:46 <gjanssens> rborbonth: no prob. I noticed too late you were disconnected :)
09:35:41 *** ErKa has quit IRC
09:48:50 *** rborbonth has quit IRC
10:01:25 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
10:02:14 *** wol has joined #gnucash
10:07:04 <jralls> gjanssens: I've got a devrc.sh that makes it easy to run gnucash/inst/bin/gnucash and to build dependencies by hand. Should I commit it, or will it get in the way of what you have set up?
10:16:04 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
10:34:29 *** hhn11 has joined #gnucash
10:46:46 *** lmat_ has joined #gnucash
10:48:09 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
10:50:41 *** lmat has quit IRC
10:57:35 *** lmat has joined #gnucash
11:00:47 *** wol has quit IRC
11:01:21 *** lmat_ has quit IRC
11:08:53 <fell> Dimstar: novell@whamra.com patched your release. Is it somehow relevant fo us here?
11:09:42 <lmat> @notes andi5:
11:09:42 <gncbot> lmat: Sent 7 years, 39 weeks, 0 days, and 18 hours ago: <warlord> get an answer from chris and hampton, Sent 7 years, 29 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <dbr> you can't eliminate libgnomeprintui -- libgnomeprint depends on it, and Sent 6 years, 14 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, and 4 minutes ago: <Rolf> can I talk to you about the aqbanking branch?
11:11:31 <fell> warlord: do you know a way to delete the <user>: notes?
11:11:45 <DimStar> fell: that was the patch for libdbi; seems at one point their new shiny function disappeared to be private... so he fixed that up
11:12:32 <fell> Ah, in libdbi?
11:13:33 <DimStar> yes; he changed the patch to be https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/GNOME:Apps/gnucash/gnucash-libdbi-0.9.patch?expand=1
11:17:07 <fell> Dimstar: But we are still awaiting your patch to determ the libdbi version - or did I miss it?
11:17:39 *** lmat is now known as andi5
11:17:41 <andi5> @op
11:17:41 <gncbot> andi5: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
11:18:17 *** andi5 is now known as andi
11:18:18 <andi> @op
11:18:18 <gncbot> andi: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
11:18:19 <gncbot> andi: Sent 7 years, 40 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, and 47 minutes ago: <warlord> If you also change it to the 'no version' so you can remove the '-0' then I think it might be cross platform again.. Where do we actually use load-extension in scheme?
11:18:26 *** andi is now known as lmat
11:20:31 <DimStar> fell: nope - That's correct; I will base it on the new one though
11:20:48 <fell> OK
11:23:38 <fell> Mechtilde, can you rebase to get the new entries in glossary?
11:30:05 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
11:32:45 *** StuM has quit IRC
11:33:13 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
11:39:07 *** mlncn-agaric has quit IRC
11:58:01 *** mlncn-agaric has joined #gnucash
11:58:42 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
12:14:09 *** ErnstNeger has joined #gnucash
12:14:14 *** wol has joined #gnucash
12:15:35 <ErnstNeger> Hi, for decades I've been trying to manage access to the German bank "1822direkt" via Gnucash and never had success. Now the bank finally told me all the credentials needed, still I don't manage to connect to it via gnucash. Has anybody, by incidence, managed to connect to that particular bank via HBCI/PinTAN
12:19:56 <fell> ErnstNeger: http://linuxwiki.de/OpenHBCI/GetesteteBanken
12:20:38 <kimmo2> how about Nordea, can gnucash connect to that?
12:23:58 <fell> http://linux.wikia.com/wiki/Online_banking says yes, but I assume it is only ofx.
12:25:20 <ErnstNeger> fell, I know that URL, but it does not work with those settings :(
12:26:55 <ErnstNeger> I've connected successfully to all my other bank accounts, only this one refuses to work
12:28:47 <fell> If you can not find something useful in the links of http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/HBCI, you could ask on the german mailing list http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/De/Referenz#Auf_der_Mailingliste
12:29:10 <kimmo2> ofx, as in requires manual steps, can't automatically just sync?
12:30:12 <fell> kimmo2: you can generally download ofx files, but some offer directofx.
12:30:18 <ErnstNeger> fell, there's already the same question on the German mailing list and I even replied to it :( No response yet :/ This is the log from connecting to the server, not very useful for me though: https://paste.xinu.at/NlbO/
12:31:34 <kimmo2> ooh
12:33:48 <fell> http://www.hbci-zka.de/institute/institut_auswahl.htm results in URL h030.s-hbci.de
12:35:37 <fell> Another place to ask is http://lists.aqbanking.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aqbanking-user
12:36:05 <ErnstNeger> fell, your first comment telling me what exactly? I don't get it
12:36:58 <gjanssens> jralls: how would your devrc.sh interfere with what I have set up ?
12:38:12 <fell> hbci-zka.de ist die offizielle hbci-Seite des Zentralen Kredit-Ausschuß (oberster deuscher Verband von Kreditistituten)
12:39:48 <ErnstNeger> fell, das scheint aber der HBCI-Server für Chipkarte zu sein, nicht PIN/TAN-Verfahren...
12:40:03 <fell> Wenn ich dort unter Bankenliste 1822direkt eingebe, bekomme ich h030.s-hbci.de als Adresse statt fints.1822direkt.com
12:40:21 <fell> Kann sein.
12:40:30 <fell> Siet was älter aus.
12:40:35 <ErnstNeger> Ich habe von deren Support ja den fints-Server genannt bekommen, den sogar ihre Banking-App via PIN/TAN nutzt und mit dem viele Starmoney-User etc. erfolgreich connecten können, ich denke der stimmt schon
12:41:15 <jralls> gjanssens: Only if you have an uncommitted file of the same name in gnucash-on-windows.
12:41:37 <fell> Ah: There are no tan method descriptions (yet), trying One-Step TAN.
12:41:49 <gjanssens> jralls: I don't so go ahead and commit it
12:42:00 <jralls> OK/
12:42:00 <gjanssens> A future pull would have warned me about this anyway
12:42:01 <ErnstNeger> fell, is that a problem?
12:42:44 <fell> Most use 2-step today.
12:44:03 <ErnstNeger> fell, is this something I might propose to their IT-support? I mean, is that like a button in their server settings that they could simply press or would they have to implement it in a new system?
12:44:40 * fell is searching ...
12:46:36 <fell> https://www.1822direkt.de/service/banking-app/banking-app-faq/?sword_list[]=fints&no_cache=1
12:50:28 <fell> HBCI verison should be 2.2
12:50:47 <fell> in your settings
12:52:07 <ErnstNeger> fell, no, this is for the use with chip cards. I have an official email from the bank's IT department telling me for PIN/TAN it is FinTS3.0
12:52:47 <fell> OK, use the settings from the mail!
12:54:11 *** rborbonth has joined #gnucash
12:54:11 <fell> But I think you should ask on the aqbanking-user list reporting your settings and attaching the log.
12:54:14 <ErnstNeger> fell, as I already said, I did, still no success (with the log from the paste)
12:54:24 <ErnstNeger> Will do that
12:54:52 <fell> The aqbanking dev will read there too. ;-)
12:57:45 <fell> kimmo2: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect_in_GnuCash_2
13:02:01 <kimmo2> yeah, nordea doesn't have an ofx interface, but they have a csv export, so I just contributed the finnish translation to the converter I found on github
13:02:09 <kimmo2> it's a good thing shit's open source
13:02:58 <fell> Cool!
13:04:10 <kimmo2> I got so excited I found the converter that it was only after I'd forked and committed and created a pull request that I realised I'm one of those guys to manually balance out everything at least once a day anyway so I don't really need this..
13:04:21 <kimmo2> hooray for boobies
13:04:26 *** AndreeeCZ has joined #gnucash
13:11:38 *** mlncn-agaric has quit IRC
13:15:34 *** wol has joined #gnucash
13:18:19 *** rborbonth has quit IRC
13:20:44 *** jralls has quit IRC
13:25:57 *** jralls has joined #gnucash
13:25:58 *** gncbot sets mode: +o jralls
13:30:20 *** AndreeeCZ has quit IRC
13:32:56 *** lmat has quit IRC
13:38:49 *** ErnstNeger has quit IRC
13:42:13 *** lmat has joined #gnucash
13:49:10 *** rborbonth has joined #gnucash
13:55:57 *** rborbonth has quit IRC
14:23:21 <fell> gjanssens: did you run msgfmt -c on the indian po files?
14:27:09 <gjanssens> fell: I don't think so...
14:27:21 <gjanssens> I do now and notice a couple of problems
14:34:00 <fell> Perhaps you ask Chandrakant for an update?
14:34:12 *** gjanssens has quit IRC
14:41:33 *** fell_ has joined #gnucash
14:41:34 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell_
14:41:48 *** fc101 has joined #gnucash
14:44:21 <fell_> Should we add msgformat -c in po to check or distcheck?
14:46:44 *** fell has quit IRC
15:01:47 *** Hinnerk has quit IRC
15:19:32 <jralls> fell_:Wouldn't hurt. It should go in check. distcheck shouldn't have special tests, it's job is to make sure that the tarballs have everything they need to pass check.
15:20:17 *** fell_ is now known as fell
15:20:54 <jralls> feil: While you're at it I think we should move the INTLTOOL_UPDATE to make rather than check.
15:22:03 <fell> OK, I will try, if I understand enough to do it.
15:22:43 <fell> BTW, have we some mechanism for msgmerge before releasing?
15:23:13 <fell> I saw, the tar has a pot
15:24:03 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
15:24:25 <fell> and releases are the default way to get pos uploaded to the translation project.
15:25:24 <jralls> fell: I thought that that was part of what intltool_update does.
15:27:05 <fell> I didn't dive very deep. The questions appeared, while reviewing wiki:Translation.
15:27:16 <jralls> It seems to be working, since the number of valid strings seems to go down with every release in the not-so-well-maintained translations.
15:32:54 *** hhn11 has quit IRC
15:34:29 *** StuM has quit IRC
15:54:31 <fell> I was earlier today wondering, why the TP has much fewer .po's than we. They are in the toplevel makefile in EXTRA_DIST, but according wiki:Translation, we add new languages only to ALL_LINGUAS in configure.ac.
16:36:12 *** AndreeeCZ has joined #gnucash
16:36:23 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
16:36:32 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
16:36:33 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
16:39:04 <jralls> fell: I'm not sure I understand your question, but the reason we have more .po files is because we have a bunch of translators who contribute directly.
16:49:16 *** fell has quit IRC
16:51:33 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
16:52:04 *** StuM has joined #gnucash
17:15:19 *** ErKa has quit IRC
17:52:28 *** AndreeeCZ has quit IRC
18:27:25 *** lwells has joined #gnucash
18:27:27 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
18:54:15 *** ErKa has quit IRC
19:04:13 *** fell has joined #gnucash
19:04:14 *** gncbot sets mode: +o fell
19:25:36 *** hhn11 has joined #gnucash
19:49:57 *** fell has quit IRC
20:41:55 *** kpreid has quit IRC
20:42:09 *** kpreid has joined #gnucash
20:55:01 *** Absurd-Mind has quit IRC
21:07:37 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
21:22:06 *** StuM has quit IRC
21:40:40 *** MechtiIde has joined #gnucash
22:00:54 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
22:00:56 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
22:00:56 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
22:06:03 *** Absurd-Mind has joined #gnucash
22:14:58 *** ErKa has quit IRC
22:19:45 *** O01eg has quit IRC
22:25:07 *** MechtiIde has quit IRC
22:29:59 *** gjanssens has joined #gnucash
22:29:59 *** gncbot sets mode: +o gjanssens
23:25:27 *** GabrieleV_ has joined #gnucash
23:25:29 *** GabrieleV has quit IRC
23:25:29 *** GabrieleV_ is now known as GabrieleV
23:54:26 *** Gbarr has quit IRC