2014-10-05 GnuCash IRC logs

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10:52:03 <Mocramis> is there a way to revert a close book operation ?
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11:02:36 <fell_> Mocramis: It is just a (set of) transactions between your income & expense accounts and your equity.
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11:11:21 <Mocramis> fell: is there a way to revert all those transactions at once ?
11:12:02 <Mocramis> or shall in delete those one by one
11:12:06 <Mocramis> ?
11:12:09 <fell> Just delete them or add reverse transactions.
11:13:02 <fell> In Equity you should see them all together on the same date.
11:14:11 <Mocramis> what do you mean by Equity (im pretty new to this sorry)
11:15:42 <Mocramis> (plus i'm neither an native english nor an accountant so i may tumble on some words)
11:16:44 <Mocramis> bon faut que je me mette a mutt
11:16:54 <Mocramis> oops
11:16:59 <Mocramis> sorry wrong chan
11:18:50 <fell> Capitaux_propres
11:20:18 <Mocramis> ha ok thanks ;)
11:22:16 <Mocramis> Nice and easy :)
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12:06:48 <jeep> hello
12:07:29 <jeep> anyone can help me telling me the hardware requirements for gnucash 2.6.4
12:08:01 <jeep> or 2.6.3
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12:12:41 <MechtiIde> what hardware do you have? jeep
12:16:21 <kimmo2> a mouse, and a monitor
12:16:26 <kimmo2> and a hard disk drive
12:16:30 <kimmo2> that's about it
12:17:10 <jeep> i need to know the requirements
12:17:17 <jeep> cpu
12:17:22 <jeep> ram
12:18:27 <jeep> etc
12:19:05 <kimmo2> I don't think there's any minimum requirements, per se. If it can run X and a window manager, it should be able to run gnucash. What do you need the requirements for?
12:19:35 <jeep> i need to know it for my course
12:20:05 <MechtiIde> jeep, for which OS?
12:20:18 <jeep> windows 7
12:21:05 <MechtiIde> all plattforms which can Windows 7 run on
12:23:38 <jeep> need more information like minimun cpu, RAM
12:25:33 <MechtiIde> this depends on what Windows 7 need
12:27:30 <jeep> no because you can run it on xp too
12:28:27 <MechtiIde> then it depends on what Windows XP need
12:28:49 <jeep> ?
12:29:24 <jeep> every program has hardware requirements
12:30:00 <MechtiIde> gnucash has the requirements of ths OS you want to use
12:30:19 <MechtiIde> not more
12:30:41 <MechtiIde> and it depends on the OS
12:31:07 <jeep> on the website doesn't say anything
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12:33:16 <jeep> but thanks Mechtilde
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16:15:43 <Hinnerk_AFK> Hi
16:15:59 <Hinnerk_AFK> I'm trying to set up a liquidity report.
16:16:26 <Hinnerk_AFK> It should show the development of the sum of various selected accounts over time, say monthly.
16:16:44 <Hinnerk_AFK> Which report would be well suited to customize to achieve this?
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16:17:23 <Hinnerk> Also:
16:18:02 <jralls> Hinnerk: For the first, I'd say the net-worth report.
16:18:02 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 19 hours and 50 minutes ago: <lmat> I think I see a little better what's going on... if we were getting typeid(KvpFrame), that would be one thing. It's defined in a different TU, and so we shouldn't call typeid on it.
16:18:03 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 19 hours and 50 minutes ago: <lmat> However, here, we're getting typeid(KvpFrame*) which is a complete type; should be fine. Apple Clang bug perhaps, like you said?
16:18:04 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 19 hours and 28 minutes ago: <lmat> Also, in kvp-value.cpp, we don't have the definition for GList or GncGUID...we shouldn't need them to get the typeid of their pointers.
16:18:12 <Hinnerk> If I have a list of transactions I want to book, say monthly bookings for the next 10 years, can I somehow easily imprt this?
16:20:17 <jralls> Hinnerk: If you can get them into the form of one of the importers, yes. CSV would probably be easiest.
16:20:49 <Hinnerk> Is there a template or example available? I expect I can get them in any format from excel, no prob
16:21:07 <jralls> Are you sure that you want to book transactions 10 years into the future, though?
16:21:24 <jralls> That will add a lot of clutter to those registers.
16:21:32 <Hinnerk> Well, my problem is that the loan wizzard has a problem.
16:21:41 <Hinnerk> So I want to enter the trx manually.
16:21:50 <Hinnerk> That way I trust the numbers best anyway :)
16:22:47 <Hinnerk> Problem with the loan wizz: I produced formulas, which
16:23:02 <Hinnerk> - show results that don't change over time in the last two months
16:23:21 <Hinnerk> - produce an error when I look at the schedule editor and try to close.
16:25:40 <jralls> If the error message is "can't balance", just ignore it. If it's "can't parse the variables", upgrade to 2.6.4 (or 2.6.3 if you're on Windows).
16:26:11 <Hinnerk> It is can't parse, I'm on windows and already use 2.6.3...
16:26:37 <jralls> Depending on the loan, the amounts may indeed not change in any particular 2 months.
16:28:16 <Hinnerk> I checked, they should
16:28:30 <Hinnerk> and it is not rounding either :)
16:30:27 <jralls> Hmm. Maybe it's 2.6.4 that fixes it then. In that case you'll have to wait till I get the Gtk problem there sorted out.
16:30:37 <jralls> How much of a change were you expecting?
16:30:51 <Hinnerk> this is a mortgage loan.
16:31:00 <Hinnerk> I should differ by a few EUR per month
16:31:02 <Hinnerk> say 3.
16:31:47 <Hinnerk> I assume you are working urgently on the GtK prob?
16:32:57 <jralls> As urgently as building on Windows will let me.
16:33:25 <Hinnerk> Good enough answer for me :)
16:34:30 <Hinnerk> About the net-worth report: It is ok, but it is a bit ugly you have three lines when you want really only one. But I can live with it.
16:34:52 <Hinnerk> ah, you xan change it
16:34:57 <Hinnerk> just noticed that...
16:36:50 <jralls> Anyway, back to CSV import: It's pretty flexible. You set which column goes where at import time. Just make sure that it doesn't have any header or comment rows.
16:37:26 <Hinnerk> old CSV question: How does it handle number / date formats?
16:37:37 <Hinnerk> and separator?
16:46:30 <jralls> They're selectable.
16:48:13 <Hinnerk> ok.
16:49:00 <Hinnerk> well, thx for your help
16:49:10 <Hinnerk> cu
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16:51:46 <jralls> @tell lmat I don't know why llvm is making different type_infos (with the same name, BTW, P9_KvpFrame), I just know that it is and that making the underlying type visible in the TU works around the problem.
16:51:46 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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18:30:33 <jralls> @tell lmat Looks like it's Apple's Clang, too. I've confirmed that gcc-4.8 works, and I've tested clang from Xcode 5.0, 5.1, and 6.0 and all fail.
18:30:33 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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18:35:41 <jralls> @tell lmat Note that 'isnan
18:35:41 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
18:37:09 <jralls> @tell lmat Darn. Note that 'isnan' failed on gcc, it wants std::isnan. Apple Clang likes that too if we change #include <math.h> to #include <cmath>.
18:37:09 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
18:38:25 <jralls> @tell lmat Clang also whines about ~KvpValue being noexcept in kvp-value.hpp and not in kvp-value.cpp.
18:38:25 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
18:42:20 <jralls> @tell gjanssens: I think I've got Windows fixed. I built a successful package locally and I've got a tag-build running on code now. Deleting the tag line from gnucash-on-windows.git/tags and running build_tags.sh works for do-overs. Good thing I did it by hand, too. That 0Root tag made it into the VM's repo and chokes the version-parsing routine.
18:42:20 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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20:29:49 <fell> jralls, you should use tell without ":" after the name.
20:31:03 <fell> Poor gjanssens doesn't know, how to delete messages for gjanssens:
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21:20:31 <jralls> fell: Dang. And I remembered with lmat.
21:21:02 <jralls> @tell gjanssens I think I've got Windows fixed. I built a successful package locally and I've got a tag-build running on code now. Deleting the tag line from gnucash-on-windows.git/tags and running build_tags.sh works for do-overs. Good thing I did it by hand, too. That 0Root tag made it into the VM's repo and chokes the version-parsing routine.
21:21:02 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
21:23:16 <jralls> fell: Out of curiosity, is there a way to delete stray messages from supybot?
21:27:16 <jralls> @notes gjanssens:
21:27:16 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 4 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, and 16 minutes ago: <jralls> Geert, that message isn't about stuff not getting saved in SQL, it's about fixing user's commodity tables when they screw up and create a commodity in the 'template' namespace. As I'm sure you know, the 'template' namespace is reserved for Scheduled Transactions and it doesn't display in the commodity editor. You must have created the Au commodity in (2 more messages)
21:27:38 <jralls> @notes gjanssens:
21:27:38 <gncbot> jralls: Sent 4 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, and 16 minutes ago: <jralls> Geert, that message isn't about stuff not getting saved in SQL, it's about fixing user's commodity tables when they screw up and create a commodity in the 'template' namespace. As I'm sure you know, the 'template' namespace is reserved for Scheduled Transactions and it doesn't display in the commodity editor. You must have created the Au commodity in (2 more messages)
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21:28:42 <gjanssens> @op
21:28:43 <gncbot> gjanssens: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:28:44 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 7 minutes ago: <jralls> I think I've got Windows fixed. I built a successful package locally and I've got a tag-build running on code now. Deleting the tag line from gnucash-on-windows.git/tags and running build_tags.sh works for do-overs. Good thing I did it by hand, too. That 0Root tag made it into the VM's repo and chokes the version-parsing routine.
21:29:05 <gjanssens> notes gjanssens:
21:29:19 <gjanssens> @notes gjanssens:
21:29:19 <gncbot> gjanssens: Sent 4 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, and 18 minutes ago: <jralls> Geert, that message isn't about stuff not getting saved in SQL, it's about fixing user's commodity tables when they screw up and create a commodity in the 'template' namespace. As I'm sure you know, the 'template' namespace is reserved for Scheduled Transactions and it doesn't display in the commodity editor. You must have created the Au commodity (2 more messages)
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21:30:42 <jralls> @tell gjanssens I think I've got Windows fixed. I built a successful package locally and I've got a tag-build running on code now. Deleting the tag line from gnucash-on-windows.git/tags and running build_tags.sh works for do-overs. Good thing I did it by hand, too. That 0Root tag made it into the VM's repo and chokes the version-parsing routine.
21:30:42 <gncbot> jralls: The operation succeeded.
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