2014-09-30 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:57:54 <shruggar> I have entered several payments which do not appear to be associated with invoices (they are instead being listed as "prepayment", with the invoices being marked as not-yet-paid). How can I force a payment to become associated with an invoice, or otherwise mark the invoice as "paid"? (The "Receivable ageing" report lists all of these accounts at £0.00, so I trust that they really ought to be associated))
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02:24:18 <theitsmith> I'm having trouble with GnuCash 2.6 on OS X when I edit fancy-invoice.scm—GnuCash crashes every time after I edit this file (the same edits on Linux work fine). Is anyone on who might be able to help me with that?
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03:02:10 <gulyasm> Hi all!
03:03:23 <gulyasm> I have a 'Cash Account', and sometimes I have inconsistency between my balance in gnucash and the actual amount of cash I have
03:05:47 <gulyasm> Where should I put the imbalance? The Imbalance account or another?
03:16:11 <gjanssens> For my personal accounting I have created an account "Various expenses" and use that to compensate any cash imbalances.
03:23:19 <gulyasm> gjanssens: Thanks, reading through the gnucash forum I think this is the best approach
03:24:56 <gjanssens> gulyasm: you're welcome
03:25:44 <gulyasm> My last question is whether I should reconcile my cash account or not? I guess I would do that as some kind of validation, but I don't know that it makes any sense. Any tips about it?
03:33:58 <gjanssens> gulyasm: that is at your own discretion
03:34:27 <gjanssens> reconciling means verifying an external source against your internal records
03:34:54 <gjanssens> So for a bank account, you verify that the bank statements match what you have recorded
03:36:31 <gjanssens> Any differences can then be investigated.
03:37:17 <gjanssens> For cash there is no such external record, unless you manually keep track of every penny you receive or spend
03:38:17 <gjanssens> So the only advantage reconciling would bring you is that the entries are marked read-only
03:38:25 <gjanssens> That avoids making accidental changes
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03:38:40 <gjanssens> That is - the only advantage I see
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06:55:23 <YeOldHinnerk> hi
06:55:41 <YeOldHinnerk> Question about formulas produced by mortgage wizz:
06:56:13 <YeOldHinnerk> When I look in the scheduled trx forumlas and try to hit Ok, an error pops up because of a formula put there by the wizzard.
06:56:17 <YeOldHinnerk> I didn not change it.
06:56:27 <YeOldHinnerk> it uses the function ppmt
06:57:02 <YeOldHinnerk> What should I do?
06:57:52 <YeOldHinnerk> All I changed was adding a constat fee of 15 ct in two extra lines of the trx
07:03:33 <YeOldHinnerk> As a matter of fact, I just checked another loan.
07:03:56 <YeOldHinnerk> When I opened the scheduled trx and tried to close it again,
07:04:15 <YeOldHinnerk> I got an error message about ipmt
07:04:20 <YeOldHinnerk> what'S going on here?
07:07:54 <YeOldHinnerk> Could it be a problem that I want the trx to start 2 months ago?
07:11:04 <YeOldHinnerk> Here'S the error message from the newly created loan:
07:11:06 <YeOldHinnerk> Die Berechnungsformel für die Mehrungsbuchung konnte nicht verarbeitet werden im Buchungsteil »Darlehen - Endbetrag Kapital«.
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07:21:17 <YeOldHinnerk_> Is there anything I can do to force this?
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07:21:34 <YeOldHinnerk_> the forumla seems correct (and was created by the wizz anyway)
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07:47:53 <YeOldHinnerk_> aehm, could this be related to the NAME of the trx?
07:48:06 <YeOldHinnerk_> just noticed that after hitting cancel, the trx change went in
07:48:30 <YeOldHinnerk_> also upon doing the srx since last, the bookings are correct....
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07:53:23 <gjanssens> YeOldHinnerk_: not sure what the problem would be. The only trouble of this kind I have experienced so far is when you change locale between the time you entered the mortgage and when the SX has to be created
07:53:52 <gjanssens> The formula is locale sensitive (decimal separator and thousands separator)
07:54:20 <gjanssens> But if the SX's do get generated, that's probably not it.
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07:58:39 <YeOldHinnerk_> well, just checked, there's still some mistake
07:58:57 <YeOldHinnerk_> the values remained constant for Aug and Sep
07:59:08 <YeOldHinnerk_> which they shouldn't be :)
07:59:51 <YeOldHinnerk_> and I didn't change local. Of course, I'm using German language...
08:03:35 <YeOldHinnerk_> I just entered the srx from scratch
08:03:40 <YeOldHinnerk_> same error.
08:03:51 <YeOldHinnerk_> of course that was to be expected, just double-checking.
08:06:10 <YeOldHinnerk_> I'm not using thousands separator. All is lower case.
08:16:41 <warlord> "srx"?
08:25:26 <YeOldHinnerk_> scheduled transaction
08:25:40 <YeOldHinnerk_> is the term not right?
08:32:37 <YeOldHinnerk_> any idea, warlord?
08:37:40 <YeOldHinnerk_> I still think it could be the starting date.
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08:38:03 <YeOldHinnerk_> I entered the sx so the first entry would be first of august.
08:38:07 <YeOldHinnerk_> with monthly payments.
08:38:41 <YeOldHinnerk_> but the amount that was booked for Aug and Sep was not only constant, it was also the amount I expected for Oct.
08:38:56 <YeOldHinnerk_> That is, interest is very close the interest in the third month.
08:43:46 <warlord> YeOldHinnerk_: ah, SX
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08:44:21 <warlord> So your P/I splits are wrong? Is the total correct? Did you over/under pay the principle?
08:44:39 <YeOldHinnerk_> no, it just started.
08:44:56 <YeOldHinnerk_> the two first month show equal amounts.
08:45:05 <YeOldHinnerk_> when interest should have dropped
08:46:04 <warlord> What version of GnUCash?
08:46:10 <YeOldHinnerk_> 2.6.3
08:46:23 <warlord> 2.6.4 is current. ;)
08:46:35 <warlord> Hmm,
08:46:55 <warlord> you created the SX via the Loan Repayment druid?
08:47:00 <YeOldHinnerk_> yes
08:47:14 <YeOldHinnerk_> switched accounts afterwards though
08:47:19 <YeOldHinnerk_> could it be that?
08:47:58 <warlord> Modifying the accounts shouldn't affect the DebCred entries.
08:48:32 <warlord> Maybe ask on gnucash-user?
08:48:52 <warlord> Last time I saw this issue was a long time ago due to an increment bug.
08:50:01 <YeOldHinnerk_> hm.
08:50:09 <warlord> Are you using XML or SQL?
08:50:21 <YeOldHinnerk_> I remeber last time it did this, it was an unnerving experience as well and took some coaching...
08:50:23 <YeOldHinnerk_> XML
08:51:18 <warlord> Did the amoritazation table in the M&L Druid look right?
08:51:34 <YeOldHinnerk_> I think it did...
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08:57:35 <warlord> Then I'm not sure what's going on here.. You should ask on the list.
08:59:05 <YeOldHinnerk_> Will do.
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08:59:24 <Hinnerk_AFK> thx
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10:39:11 <fell> http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/ has C/ from 2014-09-28, but de/ still from 2014-04-1. Why didn't it get updated?
10:40:17 <fell> gjanssens, warlord?
10:40:52 <fell> Something wrong in the hook?
10:41:25 <gjanssens> ?
10:44:48 <fell> master (http://code.gnucash.org/docs/) is regulary update.
10:45:49 <fell> with the 2.6.4 release maint (http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/) should have been updated, too.
10:46:11 <fell> But only the english part is.
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11:34:53 <gjanssens> fell: there was a file checked out on the www server. I presume this caused the git hook to fail
11:35:10 <gjanssens> I have reset the file and triggered the hook again.
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11:35:23 <gjanssens> The files are now all dated Sept 30
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12:07:33 <fell> gjanssens: but the content is still outdated. Compare e.g. http://www.gnucash.org/docs/v2.6/de/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html and http://code.gnucash.org/docs/de/gnucash-guide/chapter_txns.html
12:15:08 <gjanssens> What differences do you see ? I have compared the first few pages and they are identical ?
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12:49:31 <fell> txns in 2.6 has 2 sections and on code it has 14
12:51:54 <fell> Oh, sorry that was firefoxes cache!
12:53:05 <fell> So, it seems to be ok now.
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15:18:08 <linas> hey warlord, the ip address for gnucash.org will be changing in a few days
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15:45:28 <warlord> linas: okay. do I need to adjust the nameserver pull data? email me, i'm about to head offline.
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17:27:41 <jralls> fell: Frank, have you looked at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737623 ? It's a patch for SKR03, which isn't something I competent to evaluate.
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21:59:59 <linas> hey warlord, can you bump your dns server for me?
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