2014-09-22 GnuCash IRC logs

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12:48:39 <warlord> jralls: what's the new testing framework that we're currently using?
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13:12:36 <adrianz80> Hi, in the online developer reference (http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/head/group__Transaction.html) it says: "A good overview of transactions, splits and accounts can be found in the texinfo documentation, together with an overview of how to use this API."
13:12:55 <adrianz80> Does anyone know where that texinfo documentation is found?
13:18:58 <warlord> adrianz80: src/doc
13:23:35 <adrianz80> thanks, warlord
13:23:38 <adrianz80> I'll look there
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14:48:29 <fell> Is x86_64 supported on *BSD too?
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14:54:53 <warlord> fell: I would expect so
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14:55:42 <fell> Then I will it update too in guide/oview
14:59:57 <fell> jralls: Is MacOS X (PPC) still right?
15:00:21 <warlord> Mac is both PPC and Intel (although I dont think they currently make PPC hardware)
15:00:24 <warlord> jralls: ?
15:04:49 <fell> From the download page we still support both
15:06:07 <warlord> Yes.
15:06:39 <MechtiIde> PPC is an older one
15:07:04 <MechtiIde> and IMo since OS X 10.7 there is only Intel
15:07:11 <MechtiIde> or 10.6
15:09:09 <MechtiIde> OpenOffice.org published the last version for PPC 2009
15:09:38 <fell> Hi, Mechtilde, I am just reviewing and backporting your work.
15:09:58 <MechtiIde> thanks
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15:25:05 <fell> Mechtilde: You forgot to create a separate branch for *each* pull request. And you should use more descriptive commit messages.
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15:27:05 <fell> So I can not use "commit --amend" to improve the text.
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16:02:16 <fell> gjanssens: Can you explain, why I got Mechtildes "manual merge" as a commit?
16:09:48 <gjanssens> fell: probably because Mechtilde merged the maint branch into her working branch at some point
16:10:41 <gjanssens> For local branches I prefer rebase over merge to avoid such unecessary merge commits
16:11:08 <gjanssens> So to pull in changes from maint into your working branch you could do
16:11:17 <gjanssens> git pull --rebase
16:11:24 <gjanssens> instead of just git pull
16:11:56 <gjanssens> But only do this for local branches ! Never for maint or master (which track upstream)
16:12:25 <gjanssens> And only for branches that you haven't pushed into the central repository
16:12:41 <fell> Can you make that somehow clearer in http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git
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16:14:04 <gjanssens> Not tonight but I'll see if I find some time one of the next days.
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16:14:17 <gjanssens> Remind me if I still haven't done so next week :)
16:14:29 <fell> K
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16:47:42 <jralls> warlord: Haven't committed to a new test framework yet. I'm leaning toward Google's, but I still need to test it on Windows.
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16:49:43 <lwells> I have set remember pin in the preferences, but I still need to enter in the pin each time I download transactions. How do I fix this?
16:51:35 <jralls> fell, warlord: I'm still supporting PPC and Intel with 32-bit builds for OSX 10.5 and later. I know that GC builds happily with 64-bit, but that would limit its use to core-2 and later machines; ~2007 or so.
16:56:26 <fell> Thanks, jralls. Schould I replace "Intel" by "x86, x86-64" then in guide/C/ch_oview:159?
16:57:36 <jralls> fell: I don't think that's necessary. It works on all macs running OSX 10.5 and later, both PPC and Intel. I don't think we need to say any more than that.
16:57:53 <fell> OK
17:01:51 <lwells> I should only have to enter in the pin that first time and never again right?
17:01:59 <warlord> jralls: thanks for the info. It's kinda what I thought.
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17:11:47 <fell> lwells: It depends on Edit->Preferences->Online Banking->Remember Pin.
17:12:25 <lwells> fell: that is what I have set
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17:13:09 <lwells> fell: But I still need to enter in the pin each time
17:14:37 <fell> Hm, at least for FinTS/HBCI it is usually working for me.
17:15:59 <fell> ButI am not shure, if it is used in OFX too.
17:16:01 <lwells> I am doing OFX downloads
17:17:06 <lwells> Is it just per session or should it remember the pin the next time you open the program
17:18:54 <fell> IIRC once per gnucash session.
17:19:37 <fell> which can contain multiple bank sessions.
17:19:41 <lwells> ok, so each time I open up gnucash, I will need to enter in the pin for transaction downloads
17:21:02 <fell> I believe, that is for security reasons, as in FinTS you can give orders to your bank.
17:21:42 <lwells> ok, just thought I was not doing something right is all
17:23:31 <fell> But I am sure in earlier versions we had a tooltip explaining it. Has any dev an idea, why it disappeared?
17:23:57 <lwells> fell: Trying to grasp how the investment accounts work too
17:25:01 <lwells> I have set up an investment account and it works great, gives me the correct value of the stocks
17:25:28 <lwells> But the initial opening balance does not change for that stock
17:25:47 <lwells> When I update the quote
17:26:02 <fell> The opening balance should never change!
17:26:09 <lwells> But on the accounts page, it shows the current balance
17:27:05 <lwells> So my question is, like on the Assets over time report, that just seems to pull from the opening balance that I have entered and not from the current value
17:27:46 <lwells> Just seems like that report should show the current value
17:28:00 <fell> For which date entered you a quote? see Tools->Price Editor
17:28:26 <fell> And is it the right direction?
17:28:46 <lwells> I just click the button "Get Quotes"
17:30:52 <fell> If I work on investments, I open Reports->Assets & Liabilities->Advanced Portefolio. After a refresh I see the impact of my last actions.
17:32:00 <lwells> So that other report is for things like savings accounts or cd's then, not stocks
17:33:15 <lwells> fell: the Advance Portfolio report is great
17:34:46 <fell> Oh, you should check the price source in the report options. The default is not very lucky choosen.
17:35:40 <lwells> Ok, I chose "Most Recent"
17:38:39 <lwells> fell: Thanks for your help
17:38:55 <fell> welcome!
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18:24:14 <David77> Hi. I am scratching my head. I am trying to reconcile an investment account and the reconcile will not balance to the value that a report of the account balance shows. Subaccounts is checked in the reconcile window and all three securities have prices for the closing date. It balanced OK three months earlier and there were no transactions between reconcile dates. What can I do to find the mysterious error?
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18:29:39 <David77> there were two transactions but they were just cash in and out to pay a $35 dollar custodial fee. The reconcile is off by about the change in value of the securities during the three months.
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18:45:48 <David77> Now when I review the earlier reconcile, the value is incorrect there too. If I uncheck the include subaccounts box it appears that it will reconcile the brokerage account, but it will have a value of 0.
18:46:26 <David77> that is the correct cash balance
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18:57:24 <David77> Does the reconcile include subaccounts box bring in all the transactions that would be seen in an account register view which includes subaccounts? Are security values handled correctly?
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