2014-09-08 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:18:10 <tom> I exported a QIF out of Financisto (Android app). I've been unable to import it to GnuCash. Can somebody help me fix the problem.
03:24:22 <tom> Gnucash: Export from Financisto Import to Gnucash
03:24:22 <tom> On my Android phone I use Financisto. I exported that to a QIF. When I go to GnuCash and try to import it I get the error message:
03:24:22 <tom> "Reconciliation status: Unrecognized status 'old Brew pitcher'. Defaulting
03:24:22 <tom> to uncleared.
03:24:22 <tom> Commission: Unrecognized or inconsistent format."
03:24:22 <tom> How can I resolve this problem? I found nothing helpful when I Googled the
03:24:24 <tom> error message.
03:24:26 <tom> Is anyone using GnuCash Android? Do you have better luck with that one?
03:24:30 <tom> GnuCash 2.6.3
03:24:32 <tom> Financisto 1.6.8
03:24:34 <tom> Kubuntu 14
03:32:15 <uXus> I use GnuCash for Android abt 5 monthes. It become a good app after splitting of transactions was implemented.
03:32:38 <uXus> Only one issue: exporting to QIF sometimes fails
03:34:44 <tom> Financisto exports to QIF "fine", but if I can't import it to GnuCash it's of no use to me.
03:36:40 <tom> I've also used GnuCash to export to QIF and was unable to import to GnuCash desktop. What I find the most frustrating is that I just get stuck. I don't find the answers I need to resolve the problem in forums or elsewhere. I'm just stuck with 1.5 months of data which is now of little use to me.
03:41:44 <uXus> I use Android GnuCash with accounts structure that was imported from the PC app before, so I had never get problems with data importing
03:55:29 <tom> You created the accounts in GnuCash desktop, exported them and then imported them to GnuCash Android?
04:07:15 <uXus> I had exist accounting in Gnucash on my PC. Then I imported to mobile app only accounts structure. Keep accounts (incomes/expenses) on mobile device. And once a week (or month) export to QIF for importing to PC app.
04:07:46 <uXus> The same accounts structure on both mobile and PC apps will save your time during data import.
04:45:39 <uXus> RE: When importing QIF-files, is it possible to set the date to import from (or period)?
04:45:51 <uXus> warlord: [15:11:32] <@warlord> uXus: Not sure if anyone answered you, but no. If you import the same txns you need to mark them dups. HOwever... I thought the android gnucash app only exported "new" txns?
04:46:09 <uXus> Android GnuCash can import "New transactions" and "All transactions". After importing of "New Transactions" GnuCash triggered all transactions to "Old" whether the procedure was successful or not.
04:46:49 <uXus> And now, after the "New transactions" import fail I have only one way to get data to PC: export "All transactions" (half year period!!) and mark abt seven!!! hundreds transactions as duplicates to import one hundred of new one.
04:47:24 <uXus> Shoot me, please...
04:52:22 <uXus> Probably I have to look up a third-party app to deal with QIF-files
04:54:27 <tom> I'm taking a personal finance class. The instructor recommended the "financial tracking tool": fold a piece of paper 4 times. Now you have a square for each day, plus a square for notes. Maybe that's the most efficient tool.
04:56:14 <uXus> )))
04:56:31 <tom> Personal & Family Financial Planning, https://www.coursera.org/course/uffinancialplanning?from_restricted_preview=1&course_id=972175&r=https%3A%2F%2Fclass.coursera.org%2Fuffinancialplanning-001%2Flecture
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07:36:38 <fell> uXus: QIF is a plain text format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken_Interchange_Format
07:37:41 <fell> If the transactions are chronological ordered, you could remove the old part with your text editor.
07:38:21 <uXus> I wish, but it doesnt
07:39:39 <uXus> All transactions a grouped by accounts
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09:58:32 <warlord> uXus: you can retry the qif file after the failure.. How did the qif import fail?
10:03:02 <uXus> the result of export procedure is a zero-length qif
10:03:19 <uXus> empty file
10:04:07 <warlord> Oh. So that's a bug in the App, not a bug in GnuCash. (either that or it thought there were no new txns) -- you should contact nwegi about that!
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10:06:16 <uXus> ok. I will. Thanks for help!
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10:23:11 <warlord> As for the QIF file -- note that it *IS* a text file, so you can hand edit it to remove any transactions prior to a particular date.
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10:39:10 <tom_> Gnucash: Export from Financisto Import to Gnucash
10:39:10 <tom_> On my Android phone I use Financisto. I exported that to a QIF. When I go to GnuCash and try to import it I get the error message:
10:39:10 <tom_> "Reconciliation status: Unrecognized status 'old Brew pitcher'. Defaulting
10:39:10 <tom_> to uncleared.
10:39:10 <tom_> Commission: Unrecognized or inconsistent format."
10:39:12 <tom_> How can I resolve this problem? I found nothing helpful when I Googled the
10:39:14 <tom_> error message.
10:39:16 <tom_> Is anyone using GnuCash Android? Do you have better luck with that one?
10:39:18 <tom_> GnuCash 2.6.3
10:39:20 <tom_> Financisto 1.6.8
10:39:22 <tom_> Kubuntu 14
10:39:40 <warlord> tom_: No need to repeat your question over and over.. There are logs. We've seen it.
10:39:51 <warlord> I just responded to your email (sorry for not responding earlier)
10:40:02 <warlord> As I said in email, the QIF is invalid.
10:41:04 <warlord> To see *how* it is invalid you would need to show the broken txn -- look for "old Brew pitcher" i nthe QIF file.
10:42:30 <warlord> As for the commission: look for lines that begin with 'O' (capital o)
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11:12:27 <tom_> thank you, i'll look for that
11:44:59 <fell> From https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gnucash.android:
11:45:00 <fell> Version 1.4.2
11:45:02 <fell> - Fixed: QIF export not generated for new transactions
11:45:32 <fell> So tom, uXus, you should update it.
11:49:19 <fell> And somewhere in google plus is a user group, where you can cotact the author.
11:49:27 <fell> contact
11:50:16 <warlord> fell: I dont think tom is using GnuCash Android -- he's using something called Finascisto
11:53:18 <fell> The app store has contact data of that, too.
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12:07:50 <warlord> k
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13:12:51 <lmat> @op
13:12:51 <gncbot> lmat: Error: You don't have the #gnucash,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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15:21:07 <tom_> Success! It seems that the problem was a line which began with an "O" capital letter "o", which apparently GnuCash uses to mark "commission". I successfully imported the QIF file. It looks good, tomorrow I'll check it more closely.
15:21:23 <tom_> As Warlord said, "As for the commission: look for lines that begin with 'O' (capital o)"
15:22:57 <tom_> If I can make the "Financisto + GnuCash" combination consistently reliable that will be huge progress for me.
15:23:28 <warlord> ok
15:23:32 <warlord> and what about the reconcile?
15:24:46 <tom_> It didn't have any reconciled transactions.
15:25:01 <tom_> Do you use GnuCash Android?
15:26:23 <warlord> no
15:26:43 <warlord> tom: what about: <tom_> "Reconciliation status: Unrecognized status 'old Brew pitcher'. Defaulting
15:28:29 <tom_> I deleted that transaction in the text file (QIF).
15:35:16 <warlord> ah, ok
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15:41:40 <tom_> Does anyone have advice on whether GnuCash Android or Financisto will be more reliable (to use with GnuCash Desktop)?
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15:45:06 <warlord> well, gnucash android was designed to work with gnucash
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16:10:23 <tom> Yes, maybe I'll export (a QIF file?) out of GnuCash Desktop and import that to GnuCash Android? Or would I just want the accounts and the transaction categories (Personal Care, Groceries, ...)
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16:11:41 <tom> What's the recommended method for doing that?
16:17:01 <tom> In GnuCash Android I see "Import GnuCash accounts". I guess that includes bank accounts and transaction categories.
16:21:27 <warlord> tom: correct. you just load up your existing data file. (although I do believe it needs to be uncompressed xml)
16:21:33 <warlord> ... but I'm not 100% sure of that.
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16:39:00 <warlord> tom: FYI, there was no need to email me .... although you could have cc'd gnucash-user ;)
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20:48:06 <omnimirage> I've noted a discrepancy in one of my accounts, there's $9.95 more in my wallet than it says on GNUcash, and I'm unable to identify why. How would I go about correcting this? And also, a few organisations have a liability to me, how would I record this? Make it a positive liability instead of a negative one?
20:51:24 <warlord> omnimirage: for cash-in-wallet, I just create balancing transactions periodically. However I've rarely had *more* in my pocket... Usually I have less, because I forgot to account for something I bought.
20:51:58 <omnimirage> Balancing transaction, that makes sense
20:52:01 <omnimirage> It is odd
20:52:03 <warlord> as for the "liability to you" -- you mean you lent them money and they owe it back to you?
20:52:24 <omnimirage> There's a decent chance that I simply miscounted how much I had in my wallet when I made it my opening balance
20:52:26 <omnimirage> Correct
20:52:43 <omnimirage> An employer also owes me some money
20:52:45 <warlord> that would be an asset
20:53:02 <omnimirage> Just not a current assest?
20:53:20 <omnimirage> I understand how to do it now
20:53:22 <omnimirage> Thank you :)
20:54:05 <warlord> It could be a current asset
20:54:16 <warlord> it's not a fixed asset -- that would be like a house or car.
20:55:15 <omnimirage> I seeee. I'm thinking of making an account for "Money Owed"; I can't access it easily if I need to, so seems like it wouldn't be a current asset? I should read up on the terminology
20:59:09 <warlord> Where you place it is up to you
21:00:12 <warlord> Or ask your accountant
21:01:02 <omnimirage> I am learning how to do the accounting for myself xD Thanks again for the help
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