2014-08-16 GnuCash IRC logs
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13:36:58 <arnd> hello
13:40:16 <arnd> i've been using the bi_import plugin to import invoices from csv files. last month it still worked. now i did an upgrade of my ubuntu version from 13.10 to 14.04 which gave me gnucash 2.6.1 and now i don't find the menu entry for importing the invoices anymore.
13:41:22 <arnd> i tried to did into this a bit and tried to find the location of the module. in my ~/.gnucash/config.user i have the line "(gnc:module-load "gnucash/plugins/bi_import" 0)".
13:43:01 <arnd> but i did not find anything on my file system which would resemble this hierarchy.
13:43:32 <arnd> i did find the following files which at least have bi*import in their name:
13:44:07 <arnd> /usr/share/gnucash/ui/gnc-plugin-bi-import-ui.xml
13:44:26 <arnd> /usr/share/gnucash/gtkbuilder/dialog-bi-import-gui.glade
13:44:44 <arnd> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gnucash/gnucash/libgncmod-bi_import.so
13:45:06 <arnd> this suggests that the module is at least still installed
13:45:52 <arnd> but i did not find any documentation about how the configuration statement translates into a path on my file system.
13:46:45 <arnd> starting gnucash with the --debug option did not produce any message related to this plugin (as far as i can tell).
13:47:08 <arnd> can anyone give me a hint, how to track down the problem?
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14:16:35 <ToBeReplaced> starting a small business that makes money through retail sales and service sales; since GNUCash does not do inventory management, is there a recommendation for a FOSS inventory tool?
14:18:11 <mikee> amd: At some point the menu entries moved to File->Import... Off hand I can't remember which version.
14:18:38 <mikee> Have a look under the file menu.
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14:36:17 <helmuthoden> Hey Folks, I tried to connect to HBCI account, option generate my own key, enter my data, when gnucash crashes always at the same point (see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihv3fbd2vekzpex/error%20aqhbci.PNG) Tried win7 and win8 installation. Can you please help me with this issue? Thanks in advance
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14:38:53 <helmuthoden> its german version, I translated the important parts in the screenshot. The URL opens when inserting into another window
14:41:57 <helmuthoden> OLB Bank
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14:54:37 <gjanssens> mikee: it's arnd, not amd...
14:55:50 <mikee> My eyes are getting old. :)
14:56:14 <helmuthoden> 1 amd 4200+ dual core, 737 socket windows 7; this is intel i7-2600 windows 8
14:56:44 <helmuthoden> 1 is 2gb ram in 4 pieces; 2 is 8gb ram in 2 pieces
14:56:45 <mikee> I just filed two bugs that may be of interest to you. 734922 and 734921
14:57:06 <mikee> gjanssens: That was meant for you.
15:00:24 <mikee> helmuthoden: You may get a better reponse on the user mailing list for that type of problem. https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
15:00:56 <mikee> I know nothing of HBCI, or Windows.
15:01:29 <mikee> arnd: At some point the menu entries moved to File->Import... Off hand I can't remember which version.
15:05:15 <helmuthoden> I will address an email to gnucash-user@gnucash.org right?
15:08:11 <arnd> ah
15:09:35 <arnd> mikee: thanks, it's the kind of obvious place for this menu entry. i was just too used to find it in the "business" menu.
15:16:44 <mikee> arnd: You don't need to have "(gnc:module-load "gnucash/plugins/bi_import" 0)" anymore either.
15:17:57 <mikee> helmuthoden: You will have to subscribe first, or the message will be queued for moderation.
15:18:16 <mikee> helmuthoden: Otherwise, yes.
15:18:38 <helmuthoden> alright I will, thanks mikee
15:30:10 <arnd> mikee: good to know, thanks
15:33:17 <mikee> Thanks.
15:34:26 <arnd> mikee: do you happen to know whether the expected input format changed as well?
15:36:53 <warlord> helmuthoden: actually, you'll do even better on the gnucash-de mailing list. HBCI is limited to Germany
15:37:17 <warlord> ... and you can speak in German on that list, too
15:37:22 <mikee> Not that I recall.
15:37:55 <mikee> arnd: Not that I recall.
15:40:00 <helmuthoden> warlord: wasnt aware of that :O
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15:45:21 <warlord> helmuthoden: which part?
15:53:38 <arnd> how can i debug why all lines in my csv file are ignored by the bi_import module?
15:53:58 <arnd> i realize that they are matched against some regex
15:54:31 <arnd> is there a log domain that i can enable to get more information on this?
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15:58:42 <mikee> arnd: All lines? I assume they worked before, yes?
15:59:42 <arnd> well, i don't have a file which worked before, but the file at hand has been exported by the same code as all the files which worked before
15:59:45 <helmuthoden> warlord: I wasnt aware that hbci/fints was a german thing only
16:06:04 <mikee> arnd: Are you able to post a single line? Take out anything you might regard as private.
16:08:20 <arnd> 20140816835;16.08.2014;webXY;;;16.08.2014;Serveraccount;;Passiva:Eigenkapital:GuV:Erträge:Beiträge;6;2,00;;;;;y;;16.08.2014;16.09.2014;Aktiva:Umlaufvermögen:Forderungen;Automatisch generierte Rechnung;y;
16:09:11 <arnd> note, that i run gnucash with LC_ALL="de_DE.utf-8"
16:09:32 <mikee> arnd: OK, give me a while to check that out.
16:10:20 <mikee> I changed some date format checking in June but I don't think that's made it into production yet.
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16:45:23 <mikee> arnd: That final semicolon seems to prevent it parsing the line.
16:45:36 <mikee> remove it and give it a try.
16:50:44 <arnd> mikee: wow, thanks
16:51:12 <arnd> mikee: it worked, but do you know why this changed?
16:53:27 <mikee> arnd: Not yet. I'm looking back through the changes to find out why/when
16:53:59 <mikee> I may not find it tonight though. :)
16:54:37 <gjanssens> mikee: regarding the two bugs - I'm in the process of rewriting the payment code to rely a lot less on lot links
16:54:55 <gjanssens> That should take care of bug 734922
16:55:09 <gjanssens> Bug 734921 seems like a valid bug
16:55:38 <gjanssens> I intend to keep lot links only for "payments" that involve both an invoice and a credit note
16:56:20 <gjanssens> Other types of payments (between an invoice and an Asset account) will be handled similarly to the way it was done in 2.4 and before
16:57:04 <gjanssens> But I'll keep the flexibility to select multiple invoices/prepayments/creditnotes in the payment dialog
16:57:51 <gjanssens> It's a slow rewrite though because I have to keep backward compatibility in mind
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17:17:00 <mikee> @tell gjanssens Just missed you. Great stuff. :)
17:17:00 <gncbot> mikee: The operation succeeded.
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18:02:32 <arnd> mikee: thank you for your efforts once more.
18:02:37 <arnd> good night
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18:22:18 <helmuthoden> good night everyone
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