2014-08-13 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:23:48 <gjanssens> warlord: "SMOB" ?
03:24:03 <gjanssens> No "SMOP" ?
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10:23:18 <warlord> gjanssens: did I say SMOB? I meant SMOP..
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12:30:09 <gjanssens> warlord: you didn't, I misread. But I don't know what "SMOP" means either...
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13:02:26 <warlord> gjanssens: Simple Matter Of Programming
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13:21:57 <Guy> I have installed latest version of gnucah today - after language prompt selected dutch/nederlands - updated the etc/environment file with nl as indicated in help.. most action bars/entries are translated but labels are still english like retained eanings.. expenses.. can these labels be customized ? or do I need to join the translate project to have this correctly translated ? thanks for all update/help.. best regards, Guy
13:33:13 <warlord> Guy: the latter
13:33:36 <warlord> If they aren't being translated that means the translation isn't up to date and needs to be updated.. I believe NL uses the translation project.
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13:47:55 <Guy> So I need to join the translation project and do the translation myself and submit the corrections ? Guy
14:01:08 <warlord> Guy: if you want to see it translated, yes.
14:01:13 <warlord> (or talk to the current translator)
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14:01:57 <warlord> If you look at the nl.po file you'll see some email addresses to ask.
14:04:04 <Guy> Will do this, thanks
14:04:18 <warlord> Good Luck!
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15:20:50 <gjanssens> warlord: ah, Simple Matter Of Programming...
15:20:59 * gjanssens learned something new again
15:21:31 <gjanssens> I was trying to expand it to Show Me yOur Patch, but that didn't work very well with the "O"
15:21:40 <warlord> :)
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15:21:58 <gjanssens> Got to run again...
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15:29:42 <RogerM> I am using GnuCash 2.6.3 on Xubuntu 14.04 which seemed to be fine until today when a .lck file is created as expected but it doesn't allow saves and nor is it deleted when GnuCash is closed. So it appears I am not able to save changes. Found nothing relevant on Google. Any suggestions on where to look?
15:40:26 <RogerM> Actually, it seems to saves and reopens correctly if I change a register entry. However, if I open a 'PreConfigured' Report is won't save and the .LCK file is not deleted on quitting GnuCash.
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15:56:16 <warlord> RogerM: it will only "save" if you make data changes. There is nothing to "save" (per se) by adding new reports. Reports are saved on exit.
15:56:29 <warlord> As for not deleting your .lck file.... What filesystem are you using for your data storage?
15:59:51 <RogerM> I am using ext4. When I change data and save or quit no problem but if change data and have a report open it won't save and the .LCK is not deleted.
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16:03:35 <RogerM> Everything seems fine on version 2.6.1 that I have on another laptop.
16:04:29 <warlord> RogerM: Like I said, there is nothing to save unless you change data. Changing a report is not changing data, so no, there would be nothing to save.
16:04:51 <warlord> That's completely separate from exiting gnucash and having it delete the .lck file. I've never seen it not delete that when you File -> Quit
16:04:56 <warlord> How are you trying to exit gnucash?
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16:05:28 <warlord> Wait, if you change data *and* have a report open it wont save?
16:05:43 <warlord> GnuCash is supposed to remember your open reports...
16:05:49 <RogerM> I understand that, I did change data and it worked as long as I do not have an open report.
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16:06:47 <warlord> can you ls -la ~/.gnucash/books/ and copy the result to pastebin (unless it's only a couple lines?)
16:06:53 <RogerM> I have saved then exited, quit, and the 'x' option. Results seem consistent with v 2.6.3.
16:07:13 <warlord> gjanssens, have you seen this behavior?
16:08:48 <RogerM> ~$ ls -la ~/.gnucash/books/
16:08:48 <RogerM> total 20K
16:08:48 <RogerM> drwx------ 2 roger roger 4.0K Jun 8 02:08 ./
16:08:48 <RogerM> drwx------ 5 roger roger 4.0K Jun 20 04:05 ../
16:08:48 <RogerM> -rw-rw-r-- 1 roger roger 5.1K Jun 8 02:09 Royya.xml.gnucash.2014-06-08.gnucash.gcm
16:08:49 <RogerM> -rw-rw-r-- 1 roger roger 3.8K Aug 13 16:00 Royya.xml.gnucash.gcm
16:09:22 <RogerM> Oops, not what I expected.
16:09:36 <RogerM> I don't use irc much.
16:09:48 <warlord> That's fine
16:10:20 <warlord> Okay, so you're using 'Royya.xml.gnucash'?
16:10:27 <RogerM> Yes
16:11:19 <warlord> okay... Can you run gnucash, open a report, then File -> Quit... Then show the LCK file being next to your data file via ls -l and also pastebin your /tmp/gnucash.trace file?
16:11:37 <warlord> (please use pastebin for the tracefile, and use pastebin for the ls output if it's long -- don't paste it directly here)
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16:12:28 <RogerM> I haven't used pastebin before, how do I do that?
16:12:35 <warlord> http://pastebin.ca/
16:13:22 <RogerM> Thanks, I will do that.
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16:17:55 <RogerM> I just pasted the data and submitted, hopefully, you have found it?
16:18:51 <RogerM> Guess I should have added some sort of descriptive name other than anonymous.
16:19:46 <warlord> RogerM: you need to copy-and-paste the resulting URL here.
16:20:07 <RogerM> http://pastebin.ca/2832376
16:20:40 <RogerM> Of course, should have known that!
16:22:22 <warlord> okay, and what about /tmp/gnucash.trace?
16:22:36 <warlord> (I presume gnucash is no longer actually running, according to 'ps'?)
16:26:02 <RogerM> Sorry about the trace file here it is: http://pastebin.ca/2832381
16:27:10 <RogerM> No it is not running that I can see anywhere.
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16:31:49 <warlord> RogerM: remove your config.user file -- the taxinvoice code you are loading is causing the crash
16:34:34 <warlord> (read the trace file)
16:37:22 <RogerM> Just tried that but I still have the CRIT <gnc.scm> related errors at the top of the trace file and still the same problem.
16:37:56 <RogerM> I need to deleted / modify the gnc.scm file?
16:38:11 <warlord> Shouldn't have to do that...
16:43:51 <lmat> RogerM: Welcome to IRC!
16:45:38 <RogerM> It seems it is looking for '/usr/share/gnucash/python/init.py' which does not exist.
16:46:02 <RogerM> Thanks Imat
16:50:21 <warlord> RogerM: that's just a warning. Probably safe to ignore. However the "ERROR: no code for module (gnucash business-utils)" is a major issue
16:56:28 <RogerM> This gnucash.trace after a save with or without an open report, i.e. they're the same.
16:56:58 <RogerM> oops, this might be useful: http://pastebin.ca/2832403
16:57:42 <RogerM> Note: The problem still exists.
16:58:03 <RogerM> In that I cannot save with an open report.
16:58:15 <RogerM> Are you using 2.6.3?
16:58:49 <warlord> me? no. but lots of people are and they can save fine w/ an open report.
16:59:31 <RogerM> Might it be related to my preferences not being migrated?
17:02:19 <warlord> possible, but unlikely -- i still think it's related to that borked custom report you're loading.
17:03:16 <RogerM> But it isn't being loaded anymore after deleting the config file, is it?
17:03:33 <warlord> I dont know.. Show me the new trace file
17:03:56 <RogerM> It isn't showing in the trace file. http://pastebin.ca/2832403
17:04:41 <warlord> Hmm.. no clue why it's not saving with an open report. Which report do you have open?
17:05:26 <RogerM> I just use the standard "Income Statement" rather than my pre-configured ones.
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17:07:27 <warlord> hmmm.
17:07:39 <RogerM> Maybe I need to reinstall or completely purge all related files and install?
17:07:48 <warlord> Shouldn't need to do that.
17:07:59 <RogerM> I would rather not.
17:15:15 <RogerM> Have to go do some physical activity now but thank you for all your help. You have given me some direction to investigate. Thanks again.
17:15:38 <warlord> RogerM: if you have more questions you can try asking on the gnucash-user mailing list.
17:16:22 <RogerM> I looked there but the search url didn't work, I will try again later. Thanks.
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21:06:48 <mib_96fpi9> Hi
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