2014-08-03 GnuCash IRC logs
01:07:10 <crocket> Anyone?
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01:37:14 <warlord> crocket: Okay, what price source are you trying to use?
01:38:11 <warlord> Rubidium__: sounds like a bug to me, where it's storing/computing the wrong parameters so when it restarts it's doing something wrong. PLease file a bug report
01:40:26 <crocket> warlord, kraken?
01:40:40 <crocket> warlord, I need BTC/USD or BTC/KRW.
01:41:05 <crocket> If BTC/USD was available, GnuCash should be able to convert USD to KRW and display KRW in accounts.
01:41:32 <crocket> BTC/USD conversion followed by USD/XXX conversion would be the most versatile for now.
01:41:54 <crocket> warlord, There are lots of bitcoin exchange APIs including kraken.
01:42:27 <crocket> warlord, Also, I need accuracy of at least 8 decimal places.
01:43:19 <crocket> Since cryptocurrency exchange rate APIs don't publish mBTC, it'd be just easier to implement highly accurate decimal numbers in GnuCash.
01:44:05 <crocket> So, I need two things. 1) Highly accurate decimal numbers 2) BTC/USD -> USD/XXX conversion
01:44:18 <crocket> Oh
01:44:40 <crocket> currency conversion belong in Finance::Quote.
01:45:23 <crocket> However, GnuCash may need to modify interface with Finance::Quote to accomodate BTC/USD -> USD/XXX conversion.
01:45:47 <crocket> I also need NMC/USD -> USD/XXX conversion, so kraken fits the bill.
01:45:59 <crocket> warlord, There is also another issue.
01:46:47 <crocket> In security editor, display symbol is ignored.
01:48:15 <warlord> crocket: gnucash limits you to 6 decimal places
01:48:29 <crocket> warlord, Can you lift the limitation?
01:48:35 <warlord> Not in 2.6
01:48:49 <crocket> 6 deicmal place limitation doesn't seem to make sense.
01:49:54 <crocket> warlord, Is it possible to still implement automatic currency conversion any soon?
01:50:31 <warlord> crocket: The issue is due to some design decisions made 15 years ago to store numbers in rational format using 64-bit signed numerator and 64-bit unsigned denominator. The issue is that once you get beyond 6 decimal places then you can blow out the storage space.
01:51:20 <warlord> for 2.8 there is an effort to change the implementation to use something that will be more.... flexible. That work is *mostly* done, but 2.8 isn't due out until about 2015-2016.
01:51:31 <warlord> Is it possible? Anything is possible.. Patches are always welcome!
01:51:57 <crocket> warlord, storage is not a problem nowadays.
01:52:01 <warlord> Anyways, any price-quote feature would need to be done in F::Q
01:52:21 <warlord> By storage I don't mean "on disk"
01:52:30 <warlord> I mean in-memory operational data units
01:52:34 <warlord> i.e., gnc_numeric
01:52:42 <crocket> That's not much of a problem nowadays, either.
01:52:53 <warlord> sure it is.
01:53:13 <crocket> You could sacrifice speed.
01:53:32 <warlord> yeah, like *that* ever goes over well with users.
01:53:44 <crocket> Some number types support arbitrary numbers of decimal numbers.
01:53:49 <warlord> Please see all the complaints about load-speed on windows due to extra processing
01:54:07 <warlord> crocket: it's not worth your time arguing with me or trying to "teach" me. please stop;
01:54:25 <crocket> warlord, cryptocurrencies will require a lot of decimal places.
01:54:41 <crocket> Better to be prepared in advance.
01:54:43 <warlord> crocket: you sound a lot like "elise" who was here earlier
01:54:51 <crocket> warlord, I was elisa.
01:55:04 <crocket> My nickname was elisa due to some technical problems.
01:55:06 <warlord> Aha.. Well our answers haven't changed.
01:55:19 <warlord> And jralls is the person you want to talk to
01:55:24 <crocket> hmm
01:55:31 <crocket> What will be done to decimal places?
01:55:38 <warlord> in 2.6 ... nothing
01:55:43 <crocket> in 2.7?
01:55:52 <warlord> 2.7 is a tester release.
01:56:26 <warlord> 2.8 will be the next stable... and it will have the new implementation. I dont know how the new impl will affect it.
01:56:49 <warlord> It should be "improved" -- but still will be limited.
01:57:26 <warlord> anyways, I'm about to get off again for a few hours. g'night
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10:32:41 <zwitterion> gnucash segfaults when generating reports that need graphs. This
10:32:58 <zwitterion> GnuCash 2.6.3
10:32:58 <zwitterion> This copy was built from rev 4e4a032+
10:33:42 <zwitterion> I think it's having a problem with jqplot or whatever, this didn't happen on earlier versions
10:33:51 <zwitterion> I don't know which
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10:36:12 <zwitter> anyone?
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15:48:51 <ProfessorKaos64> I can't get my budget to go in to 8/01/14, it's still stuck at 7/01/14
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