2014-05-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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01:01:40 <lmat> jralls: I thought I would mention a conversation I'm having somewhere else. He said that he spent 10 months converting from C to c++ and he recommends:
01:02:50 <lmat> jralls: step 1) make it compile as c++. 2) poison malloc/free (etc.) 3) higher-level changes
01:03:11 <lmat> jralls: It looks like we're skipping step 2. I told him that as step 3 completes, malloc will simply disappear one call at a time.
01:04:08 <lmat> jralls: He said this isn't the right way and is a recipe for pain ^_^
01:04:37 <lmat> jralls: Anyway, if you want to know more, let me know. I'm guessing you've thought through this, but exercising due diligence and full disclosure, there you have it :-)
01:06:03 <lmat> jralls: Oh yeah, https://github.com/themanaworld/tmwa/blob/master/src/poison.cpp is his poison file (to make sure C is purged). He points out that with malloc and free floating around, it's impossible to safely use 'new'. He seems to agree that it's possible in our narrow GUID case, but for the larger situation, he advises great caution.
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09:48:32 <warlord> lmat: You can most certainly use new/delete and malloc/free "together" -- you just need to make sure that you use it "correctly". Luckily our API already has "factories" (sorta) so the alloc/de-alloc is all "internal" to each object implementation.
09:49:00 <lmat> warlord: Right. That's what I thought.
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09:50:56 <warlord> e.g. We don't do "Account* act = malloc (sizeof(Account))";, instead we do "Account* act = xaccMallocAccount();"
09:51:07 <warlord> So we can isolate the appropriate allocation/deallocation routine.
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10:56:31 <lmat> warlord: yup
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14:07:10 <rudi> hi all! i just switched from arch to debian, and now my gnucash won't work with hbci (aqbanking) any more - might be an aqbanking problem as well
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14:09:38 <rudi> when i run the aqbanking wizard, it exits without a message after clicking "create user"
14:10:33 <rudi> gnucash: list1.c:59: GWEN_List1_GetCount: Assertion `l' failed.
14:10:39 <rudi> Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
14:11:33 <rudi> won't paste backtrace unless requested - it's 57 lines long
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14:20:18 <jralls> rudi: From the bt, what's the gnucash function that calls into libgwenhywfar?
14:21:05 <jralls> Also, what version of debian and GnuCash?
14:23:15 <rudi> aai_wizard_button_clicked_cb - i suppose
14:24:15 <rudi> gnucash is 2.6.1, i also tried 2.4.something before, same result
14:25:08 <rudi> debian... good question. latest as of 4 weeks ago
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14:28:31 <jralls> Latest what, though? Stable, testing, or unstable?
14:28:40 <rudi> stable
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14:28:56 <rudi> enabled wheezy-backports to get 2.6
14:29:18 <rudi> (sorry, pretty new to this debian stuff, had gentoo and arch before that)
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14:30:50 <jralls> OK. Give me a few minutes to get my Wheezy VM fired up...
14:31:04 <rudi> thx - my hero
14:32:50 <fell> rudi: perhaps aqbanking was more recent in arch than in debian. For SEPA transactions you will need a very recent aqbanking.
14:33:40 <jralls> Frank, it's 5.0.24 in Wheezy. Dunno if that's new enough for SEPA, but at present he can't even open the setup wizard.
14:34:34 <jralls> rudi: Forgot to ask, did you transfer your aqbanking data from your arch box? It's in ~/.aqbanking.
14:35:04 <rudi> tried that. when it didn't work, i started over without the ~/.aqbanking folder
14:35:09 <warlord> Didn't they change from/to .banking?
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14:36:01 <fell> That was years ago - May be debians is still using it ;-)
14:36:05 <rudi> backports has 5.4.3beta1
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14:38:44 <jralls> Are you using 5.4.3beta1 or 5.0.24? I just tested with 5.0.24 and it started up the setup dialog without trouble.
14:40:22 <rudi> at the moment, i'm on backports, so it's 5.4.3beta1. but i started out with all stable
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14:43:49 <jbrsa> This should be possible but I can't find any info in the docs or the FAQ: I have a file with transactions since 2008 - is there a way to remove/delete all transactions before a given date (e.g. 2009/01/01)? The intent would to be to reduce the transaction count in the file.
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14:49:10 <jralls> rudi: Works for me on Jessie (testing) with 5.4.3, too, but naturally I'm using a locally-built Gnucash. I think you'll have to talk to Debian to see if they can reproduce the problem.
14:50:05 <jralls> jbrsa: Not easily, no.
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14:50:25 <fell> or ask on the german mailing list, where most aqbanking experts are
14:53:43 <rudi> sounds good...
15:01:11 <jbrsa> jralls: Thanks. I figure it's not a good idea anyway since it will affect equity.
15:03:18 <jralls> jbrsa: Yes, you'd need to net all of the old transactions into the appropriate opening balances in Equity, Assets, and Liabilities. Someone started to code for that several years ago and couldn't make it work; I removed the leftovers only last year.
15:07:43 <jbrsa> jralls: I can imagine. Thanks for your time.
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15:14:44 <rudi> jralls: i solved it
15:14:58 <jralls> Great! What did you do?
15:15:11 <rudi> debian is missing a dependency. install aqbanking-tools and you're set
15:15:49 <rudi> or maybe it's an optional package, and gnucash is missing the error handler for it
15:15:56 <rudi> in any case - it works now
15:17:06 <jralls> Huh. I don't have aqbanking-tools installed. Strange. But as long as you're up-and-running, it's good, I guess.
15:17:28 <rudi> weirder by the minute...
15:17:40 <rudi> probly one of its deps
15:18:49 <rudi> libaqhbci20, libaqofxconnect7, libaqbanking34-plugins
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15:21:00 <rudi> aah, this feels good. updated my accounts first time in three weeks
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21:56:58 <yeochief> does anyone know an easy way to sync gnucash between two computers? I have gnucash on my ubuntu box and would like to sync it with my ubuntu laptop. I have Dropbox installed and working between the two computers.
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